"Experts" say MTF womb transplants only a few years away?

Don't assume that every transwoman who would express an interest would be doing it with carrying a baby in mind. There will be some who would be content to go down that route so they could say that because they've got a uterus tucked away in their body, serving no purpose, then this shows that women's reproductive systems are not a female thing.

That’s the thing, TRAs believe that sex is just a matter of “bits” that can be changed like Lego pieces to fit their erroneous notions of gender (which is extremely important to them), when us rational people know that sex (which is and should be irrelevant in most situations) goes right down to every cell in your body.

If, down the line, this were to go ahead, I would hope that these men wouldn't be taking up valuable spaces on surgical NHS waiting lists ahead of those who need operations for medical reasons.

A few, but they have been performed on women with MRKH who had their own ovaries and vaginal canals and just needed the uterus.

After a successful pregnancy ending in caesarean delivery the uterus is removed.

The donors have almost exclusively been the mothers of the recipients, which presumably helps lower the post transplant rejection risk as the woman herself was once inside the uterus that Is now inside her!
The donors are of menopausal age, have completed their own families and have an emotional investment in agreeing to donate (a possible grand baby).

Very different situation to the sort of weirdo sci-fi ideas of putting the uterii of unknown girls into men who say they are women.

Would someone born male actually be able to gestate a foetus without causing severe damage to their internal organs? There's a reason female adult pelvises are wider than males' and that's to give space to a growing foetus isn't it?

I expect there's plenty of autistic girls who can be coerced into parting with their uteruses before they embark on the 'becoming a man' process. Those, and poor women, who'll be forced to sell theirs to pay for their energy bills.

Pity the scientists can't put the same amount of effort into finding a proper treatment for painful endometriosis.

I opted out of organ donation a few years ago when this started being talked about.

Thank you so much for reposting your words, nauticant.

They stuck in my mind the first time round, and I've been wanting to reread and remind myself in detail. Your insight on this is keen.

Testosterone use causes female reproductive organs to atrophy.

it would mean making hysterectomy MUCH earlier in the transition timeline for natal girls (a make a later detransition more difficult).

I believe for transplant a uterus needs to have cervix and top section of vaginal canal removed with it, which is more than in a straightforward hysterectomy op.

Has no one pointed out to Irma Grese there Anna Smajdor, that she could maybe take a couple of bits of skin and use it to bind books, or make lampshades out of, while she's at it! Saves it going to waste, after all!
I wonder, did she have an uncle Josef at all? :-/

Scum!

And blood donation too I believe - men should be given the blood of other men if at all possible (happy to be challenged on this, I am not a scientist but think I’ve read it).

Clearly, the experts making these claims are just opportunists in a very crowded market, gaining publicity for their outlandish statements. But they're making them in the context where we're asked to believe that men have already given birth, transmen are men, as we all know. So the idea that it could happen already exists in people's minds.

It is nonsense, though. However, if you're a shameless self promoter (and they exist in medical research as in every other field), it's a good way of getting your name out there.

Bloody hell, that's a grim idea (or as the DM quite accurately puts it the outrageously controversial concept floated by one philosopher.

(Not sure that using conscious women's bodies as mere gestators is that much better tbh but that's another discussion)

10 rats from 280 embryos is a success rate of 3.5%

Moreover, just look at the death rate after birth. Nearly two-thirds dead. This experiment should not have been done on animals, and it must never be done on humans.

They had 46 'pairs' of rats and a total of 562 embryos were transferred to female halves and 280 to the males.A total of 169 (30%) of embryos had developed normally in the native uteruses of females, whereas only 27 (9%) had developed normally in the grafted uteruses of males.At term just ten pups survived after being delivered from the male uterus but they had no long term health issues.The other 17 pups born died on the first day.

Here's a link to the article about the suggestion to use brain dead women as "surrogates"
www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11705261/Should-brain-dead-women-kept-alive-used-SURROGATES.html

Hardly any though. When I ran the percentages of how many baby rats survived till birth on another thread, it was tiny. And then, of those rats born, more simply died in the first few hours after birth.

A repulsive and, surely, impossible scenario on many levels…
As a previous poster said, I would be opting out of organ donation, for fear my uterus could be used in such a way.
It makes you wonder where they are thinking of getting fresh and healthy female organs from,
Maybe the young girls who wish to opt out of womanhood could go in for double mastectomies and also be persuaded to donate their wombs too…

I opted out of the organ harvesting when it was no longer donation but bodysnatching by the government. But in any case mine must be the size of a raisin by now.

I think its a great idea. Will they want a donor womb plumbed in with a starter-foetus already included? Or perhaps they only want to experience menstruation, getting to grips with Tampax and PMT. How about smear tests?

Do neovaginas even have a cervix, and will it dilate ?

Pity I gave away such a valuable organ for free when I could have sold it.
( one careful lady owner, large capacity, excellent milage, full service history).

Brain dead women, i.e. women in a persistent vegetative state with no expectation of recovery. This reaction to the doctor's proposal (which does not appear to be modest in any way) sticks in the mind.

Why should their wombs be going to waste? Women apparently exist on this planet to be a resource to be farmed.

I have added no reproductive tissue of any kind to be used or donated to my organ donation register.
There has been a live birth from a womb transplant within the last few years, without looking it up, I think it was from a mother to her daughter and was only for the duration of the pregnancy and was removed afterwards.
I can't imagine that was an easy pregnancy. But they were very closely matched types due to being related presumably.

I think it was DEAD women she was suggesting could be used as incubators, Allthegoodnames ?

As organ donation is now opt out instead of opt in, when filling out the form to opt out you’re given the choice to only opt out of certain organs. I made clear my womb, ovaries etc were off limits, I would only consent to my main organs being used (bar my eyes. Freaks me the heck out that someone someday may walk about with my eyes). I’d suggest everyone follow suit if this is the way “science” is heading.

There is a ‘doctor’ in Oslo who thinks that women in a coma could be used as surrogate ‘mothers’ , that is ,incubators.

Really, it is not a joke.

The arrogance & entitlement of men who rent women's wombs for surrogacy unfortunately evidences the financial desperation some women are in.

So? I guess some poor women will be found to sell the actual womb...after all if "you're" that destitue "you" shouldn't be having babies anyway?

Already happening for other body parts globally