"Experts" say MTF womb transplants only a few years away?

Some pagans believe that the womb/ovaries are sacred and have a soul of their own. Certainly, when I was younger, mine felt as though it controlled me and I had to fit in with the rhythms it went through. It was definitely a massive part of who I was and I struggled massively with pms. Same with the hormone fluctuations dictating mood, sex drive etc. Glad it's gone into retirement now 😂 it's not a spare part though to be taken for experimentation or transplant. It still contains part of who I am even though I'm not a pagan.

Yes, the willingness to experiment on human children is a bit Dr Mengele to say the least.

But this is all just someone's exceptionally warped pipe dream.

What happens in the off chance that the woman was wrongly declared brain dead and wakes up terrified and in labor? I think I might resort to offing myself. I mean I’m in canada naturally so I guess I could just apply for maid. 🤪

They didn't. What killed him was a botched vaginoplasty using tissue from the colon which led to an agonisingly painful infection of the donor site which ultimately caused his death.

The rat experiment only worked after they rats were first seriously inbred and then the sister rat whose womb was removed was stitched onto her brother into whom the womb was implanted.

Failure rates were high, mortality rates of the adult rats would never be acceptable in humans. As for seriously inbreeding humans and then conjoining siblings to make the womb implant into males viable, that's extremely unlikely to ever get ethics approval in Europe and would take decades, because of the inbreeding requirement. Obviously.

Well some bloke transwoman is welcome to mine, it's broken, full of fibroids and glued to everything else in my abdomen by endometriosis so I spend most of my life in agonising pain. Take it if it makes you feel 'like a woman' and enjoy

Poor woman? Few kids? Bills to pay? Fancy selling your womb?

Scientists have done so much good. Try have enabled infertile woman to have babies.

This is not good.

I am glad tha to am getting to an age where noone would want my reproductive organs but this is horrific. Its actually really upset me. Its just so wrong. Its not the TW potentially having a baby - Its the complete disregard for the woman who's womb is used and the child who could be born from it.

I actually am a bit unsure of womb transplants in actual woman. I don't know - it just seems a step to far.

Just Google 'opt out of donor register UK', it's easy enough to do. Make sure you inform your relatives as well.

I'm ashamed to say that I've recently opted out too. I appreciate that this is currently science fiction, but this along with the cadaver surrogacy fantasy the other day.....nope. I'm out, for the time being. I'm sick about it but I cannot support something that should be good being twisted into a frankensteinish horror show. I hope it's just nonsense but atm, I won't risk it.

I didn't believe I'd ever see rapists in women's prisons either, yet here we are...

I did too ☹️

I don’t mind giving a kidney to save a life but I don’t want weirdos cutting up my lady parts out of curiosity in the name ot scientific research.

They did this with Lili Elbe, this is what killed him.

How do you opt out. Important please.

BasilParsley · Today 14:53

But then it seems a lot of transmen want to keep their non-manly bits so they can have a baby for themselves anyway...

This thing is a horror show, it's been proposed for decades. In the mid 90s, there was an article - possibly in the New Scientist - and it was discussed in a biology lecture. Our lecturer said, "First step, total castration. How many men will agree to that"?

There was no mention of TIMs. at the time.

It's extremely unethical, as far as I see it. It's entirely unnecessary to boot. And looking at the survival figures for the rats, who could pass that for human beings? No, No, no. It's the most deranged, sick part of transw demands for the rest of society to validate their delicate fucking feelings.

@AlwaysGinPlease you can consent to specific organs and refuse others. If that's your keenly objection to organ donation, perhaps you would reconsider and do that? I've consented to eyes, lungs and so on, all individually, for this exact reason.

It’s not a new thing they’re working on. I applied for a part time assistant job at a lab while at uni 20+ years ago (when I realised what it was I declined the job offer!) but essentially they were doing medical experiments on mice, one mentioned was womb transplants to potentially help women who’ve had to have hysterectomies to bear their own children. It’s sad this seems to have jumped to “helping biological males to carry children”.

Brilliant idea 😂

There are 'daisy chain' kidney transplants. Maybe that. But with knobs.

Another who has updated their organ donation preferences today to specify what I am prepared to donate (and thus, not); as well as telling my husband ‘not even over my dead body…..’

Maybe they could pair up and do a swapsies?

Are transmen going to get transplanted penises then? I somehow think they won't.

Basically, 'fuck off with your faulty women-womb'. Depressing, is t it?

I just bloody hope this is not available on the NHS

Isn't it funny how this may be considered possible but a cure for endometriosis or PCOS not?!

What do you think happens in IVF pregnancies? I have a "shit ton" of hormones ready to take after my embryo transfer, is that unethical?

You’d need to transplant the entire immune system, of which the uterus is a significant part. Our system is different - it needs to be strong at the right time and lower at others. It’s why women are more prone to autoimmune issues. They can’t even get all of us infertiles with a uterus and a female immune system pregnant, it’s never going to work for dudes!