Why don't we introduce legal gender?

Be whatever gender you wish to be. change it as often as you feel the need to.

Why does it need to be notified to anyone at all really? It is such individualised thinking with no thought beyond that one person’s needs.

How does it help the world to have documented genders?

This is like saying that hair colour should be adjusted officially everytime it changes. Instead of noting the colour as produced by the coding in your genes.

Apparently the NHS computer system was designed like this with two fields. Then they blew it by allowing the recording of gender in the sex box, making a mockery of the whole thing.

As long as they make it clear that sex and gender identity are absolutely and totally not the same thing in law or otherwise they could have print off and colour in your own gender identity certificates.

To be honest, I would really welcome a legal definition of gender. I genuinely can't grasp what it's supposed to be at the moment, beyond some sort of "feeling" that often seems to be associated with some fairly simplistic and outdated stereotypes about men and women.

I think it would be great to try to pin it down so that we know what it actually is.

Imagine the debate to agree an actual definition of gender that isn’t ‘a bunch of crap stereotypes some people seem
hugely attached to building their sense of self around’.

Came here to say the same.

Define gender.

If it’s inner feelings, why can’t other inner feelings be enshrined in law?

But what happens if you decide that you are no longer Neptune gender but cat gender? Do you have to replace all your documents?

The number of genders is growing exponentially, it cannot be fully captured in a list. It will then need to be a free text field or hand written field on paper.

What happens if a typo is made?

Sounds like sensible middle ground to me.

It would be a pointless addition though, because gender doesn’t mean anything or inform anyone.
Sex should remain on birth certificates, passports, medical records etc as sex isn’t changeable, saying otherwise is a lie and causes confusion all round.
Trans activists would reject it because anything that suggests TW aren’t women is an abomination of bigotry.

You would have to be able to define gender. What is the female gender?

I think it's a really good idea and I've been thinking the same. It would signal that sex and gender are different. Many of us would choose to leave it blank. It might be fine for some of the activists but many wouldn't like it as their goal is to remove sex based rights.

Firstly, gender would have to be defined in law which it hasn't been so far. It's such a nebulous concept I think it would be hard to define, but I'm sure better brains than mine could give it a go

But you say "no such thing as 'legal sex' to confuse people", @PronounsBaby. Do you mean get rid of the concept of legal sex?

i also get where you’re coming from but….
If gender is a real thing, how can parents know what gender a baby is?

Also, why should we change things to appease a very small minority of the population?

The TWAW lobby would not like it. But in a way that would be beneficial to the wider public because your suggestion seems logical and accomodating. When hardline TWAW believers had to explain why they didn't like it, people would learn what their actual intentions were.

Why would your gender need to be in your passport? Sex serves some basic identification purpose, I guess. It doesn’t change either.

But gender would be as pointless on a passport as your marital status, your job, or your favourite food.

I get where you're coming from and I see your logic, even though I still don't really understand the concept of gender or what it actually is, other than a collection of stereotypes. I guess I would fall into the category of choosing not to have one.

I could certainly live with your solution, but I don't think the TWAW lobby could. I don't think they will ever be happy until the concept of gender - whatever that actually is - completely replaces and erases the fact of biological sex.

Quite happy with being female thanks. It’s not law, it’s biology !