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Radio 4 PM Gamers discuss boycotting JKR

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PaleBlueMoonlight · 02/02/2023 17:04

PM programme on now. Evan Davis says there will be an item where gamers discuss whether to boycott the new Hogwarts Legacy game.

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ReunitedThorns · 02/02/2023 19:23

Also heard a lot of people are planning to buy the game second-hand because they think that JKR will not benefit from any royalties whilst they still get the benefit of the playing the game.

ReunitedThorns · 02/02/2023 19:21

WomenShouldStillWinWomensSports · 02/02/2023 17:06

I wonder what percentage the overlap is between gamers and MRAs.

High. And they go from MRA to transmaxxing.

They pick female avatars in the games and start to believe they can do the same in real life too.

nauticant · 02/02/2023 19:12

It's is worth clicking on the Twitter link I posted above and reading through the tweets.

CatOutOfTheGoldLameBag · 02/02/2023 19:01

Lots of people complaining to #BBCPM.

But one with the trans flag suggests her "still being alive" is troubling ffs
Although l am not surprised really

Radio 4 PM Gamers discuss boycotting JKR
HipTightOnions · 02/02/2023 18:51

How utterly infuriating.

The "balance" boiled down to: "Given that JKR is a wicked witch, is it still ok to play the game?"

How does she stand it?

Untitledsquatboulder · 02/02/2023 18:49

Holdmypint · 02/02/2023 18:03

Was waiting for Evan to challenge the assertion that JKR is transphobic and has nasty views, but no he just accepted it. Am outraged - - anyone going to join me in a BBC complaint?

I will. Pissed me off no end.

CatOutOfTheGoldLameBag · 02/02/2023 18:44

Just a reminder: he is paid £275K annually to bring women hating to our homes.

UpsilonPi · 02/02/2023 18:44

Birdsweepsin · 02/02/2023 18:41

I'm very grateful to Evan and Stacey for drawing my attention to this game.

I just pre-ordered a copy.

Never bought a video game before in my life.

I'm tempted now too. I could play when my kids are at school!

Birdsweepsin · 02/02/2023 18:41

I'm very grateful to Evan and Stacey for drawing my attention to this game.

I just pre-ordered a copy.

Never bought a video game before in my life.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 02/02/2023 18:35

Totally awful. I can't find the BBC sounds complaints from, can anyone help? Thanks

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nauticant · 02/02/2023 18:35

Evan Davis puts out any old rubbish pushing gender identity ideology on PM while being relaxed about getting broad support, for example on Twitter.

He's fucked up here:

twitter.com/search?q=bbcpm%20(trans%20OR%20jkr%20OR%20rowling)%20until%3A2023-02-03&src=typed_query&f=live

TheWitchesAreBackInTown · 02/02/2023 18:30

WinterTrees · 02/02/2023 17:56

Wokebro gamer is feeling sorry for kids being vilified for playing the game.

Waiting for Evan Davies to step in and ask whether it's fair for JKR to be vilified for standing up for women's rights...

Lol. Kids being vilified. What planet is he from? They will be comparing notes and gameplay.

borntobequiet · 02/02/2023 18:27

Holdmypint · 02/02/2023 18:03

Was waiting for Evan to challenge the assertion that JKR is transphobic and has nasty views, but no he just accepted it. Am outraged - - anyone going to join me in a BBC complaint?

I’ve complained.

Horrible stuff, and not challenged at all.

zanahoria · 02/02/2023 18:26

Oh no!

First the Quidditch nerds, now the gamers!

Luckily millions of kids still love her books

CatOutOfTheGoldLameBag · 02/02/2023 18:16

Clymene · 02/02/2023 18:06

Evan Davis is an arsehole. Where the hell did he dig Stacey up from?

I keep thinking about the 'cancellation' because I drive past a primary school pretty much every day. After Christmas, without fail, there kids wearing new Hogwarts scarves.

The people who are 'cancelling' are not the target audience. They aren't the parents, they aren't the kids. And I very much doubt Stacey is going to become a dad any time soon.

I beg to differ. l often yell asshat, when ED is on R4.

Arsehole, Asshat, potato patato

PaleBlueMoonlight · 02/02/2023 18:14

I manaved to miss it! Will listen on catch up and do the complaint.

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ErrolTheDragon · 02/02/2023 18:07

MidsomerMurmurs · 02/02/2023 17:53

Well I think Stacey might not be impartial here…

I've not listened to the piece, but seems like Evan Davies isn't impartial either.

Clymene · 02/02/2023 18:06

Evan Davis is an arsehole. Where the hell did he dig Stacey up from?

I keep thinking about the 'cancellation' because I drive past a primary school pretty much every day. After Christmas, without fail, there kids wearing new Hogwarts scarves.

The people who are 'cancelling' are not the target audience. They aren't the parents, they aren't the kids. And I very much doubt Stacey is going to become a dad any time soon.

GloomyDarkness · 02/02/2023 18:04

NightNightJohnBoy · 02/02/2023 17:59

So JKR has 'nasty views'. Not challenged by ED.
If you weren't up on the debate you'd think it was fact that JKR has inappropriate views, as all that can be said on the BBC without being challenged.
Shocking.

This - though I upset DD1 by talking at the radio and point out this is about a woman's work - or tangential work and not someone like Roman Polanski work or some other man who actually done something illegal.

Tartanonesie · 02/02/2023 18:04

So for balance, we had someone who was not buying or promoting the game because JKR is a big nasty transphobe and doesn't think anyone should buy it as that is giving her more of a platform to spread hate, and someone who was prepared to buy the game even though JKR is a big nasty transphobe.

The host's only comment on those accusations was that JKR wouldn't say she was transphobic.

Did I get that right?

Holdmypint · 02/02/2023 18:03

Was waiting for Evan to challenge the assertion that JKR is transphobic and has nasty views, but no he just accepted it. Am outraged - - anyone going to join me in a BBC complaint?

comfortablylesslumpy · 02/02/2023 18:01

StillWeRise · 02/02/2023 17:57

are they not going to actually ask for evidence that JKR is transphobic ????

Apparently not (quelle surprise).

I wouldn't have expected any less TBH. Disappointing

BawRamEwe · 02/02/2023 18:00

Pre-ordered ours yesterday and it'll start downloading on 5th ready for the 7th 😁

The minute number of saddos boycotting the game are already far outweighed by the people who have pre-ordered, and I bet they HATE that 🤣

IwantToRetire · 02/02/2023 18:00

I suspect they put this item on because they cant bear that fact that most gamers aren't interested in being politically corrected - ie it is already a best seller. www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4718102-call-to-boycott-new-harry-potter-game-over-jk-rowling-trans-comments-fails

I suspect ED was doing a favour for his trans friend who not only got a public platform but was able to advertise their web site.

NightNightJohnBoy · 02/02/2023 17:59

So JKR has 'nasty views'. Not challenged by ED.
If you weren't up on the debate you'd think it was fact that JKR has inappropriate views, as all that can be said on the BBC without being challenged.
Shocking.