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Radio 4 PM Gamers discuss boycotting JKR

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PaleBlueMoonlight · 02/02/2023 17:04

PM programme on now. Evan Davis says there will be an item where gamers discuss whether to boycott the new Hogwarts Legacy game.

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Saltovinegar · 06/02/2023 06:28

Thank you, this thread has reminded me to preorder a copy for my Switch.

SinnerBoy · 05/02/2023 16:03

WifeOfTiresias · 03/02/2023 13:40

News flash Evan, there are many, many people around the world who agree with JKR. This was one of the most blatantly unbalanced pieces of reporting I have heard in a long time and Evan really needs to be brought to account on this.

Yet when Steph McGovern mocked Boris Johnson, by using his own words and described herself as a girly swot, she was carpeted immediately. Is there some sort of connection, do you think?

IWannaBeInTheRoomWhereItHappens · 05/02/2023 15:30

I will buy it, I'm a gamer and it looks incredible. All thanks to JKRs amazing world building in the first place.

ReunitedThorns · 03/02/2023 19:25

It's currently the highest selling game on Amazon (no.1 spot is taken by a credit pack).

Boycott going well I see.

Speakingofdinosaurs · 03/02/2023 19:01

Sent my complaint to the BBC

ErrolTheDragon · 03/02/2023 18:22

MargaritaPie · 03/02/2023 17:28

I'm sorry to hear you have too much money you need rid of, but wouldn't it make more sense to donate to perhaps a homeless charity instead of a billionaire who lives in a mansion/castle in the richest part of Edinburgh?

Jkr will likely pass on her share of the profit, but sure, many with spare cash may prefer to just support charities directly - there's a range of good ideas in the Philanthropy section of this, as it happens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.K.._Rowling

ickky · 03/02/2023 18:11

Can't wait, game looks brilliant. I ordered it ages ago, also ordered the deluxe version which I wouldn't normally do, just to give a bit more royalties to the fabulous JKR.

I don't think the boycott has worked, it's sold out now on shopto.

What a crying shame.

Clymene · 03/02/2023 18:10

MargaritaPie · 03/02/2023 17:45

It just seems strange IMO to make a point of saying you will buy multiple copies of an expensive video game you have zero intention of playing.

But you're right, it's a free country so people can throw bundles of cash in their fire to keep warm if they so wish.

I can buy you one becuase you're obviously desperate to play it Grin

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/02/2023 18:08

I imagine people are buying multiple copies as gifts for family and friends, Marg.

MargaritaPie · 03/02/2023 17:45

It just seems strange IMO to make a point of saying you will buy multiple copies of an expensive video game you have zero intention of playing.

But you're right, it's a free country so people can throw bundles of cash in their fire to keep warm if they so wish.

risefromyourgrave · 03/02/2023 17:40

MargaritaPie · 03/02/2023 17:28

I'm sorry to hear you have too much money you need rid of, but wouldn't it make more sense to donate to perhaps a homeless charity instead of a billionaire who lives in a mansion/castle in the richest part of Edinburgh?

Marg, women can spend their money on what they want to, we’re not in Gilead yet. And how do you know that we don’t all have monthly donations to food banks/heat banks/etc? It is literally none of your business how people spend their money.
Go and hector billionaires about how they spend their money. I mean, you could have included JKR in that group, but she’s not a billionaire anymore, y’know, after giving so much to charity…..

MargaritaPie · 03/02/2023 17:28

I'm sorry to hear you have too much money you need rid of, but wouldn't it make more sense to donate to perhaps a homeless charity instead of a billionaire who lives in a mansion/castle in the richest part of Edinburgh?

IwantToRetire · 03/02/2023 16:52

At one time I was complaining nearly every day about how ED was using PM to further his personal agenda. Never once got a reply.

And hard as it might seem, I think compared to other occassions he was less overt than he has been. ie adding in the words other people say ...

But if as has been said they then repeated the clip on the Today programme that really is bad.

The point is it isn't a story. Stacey and friends failed months ago to get anyone to boycott it. The only reason for bringing this up now was to promote Stacey.

And even with the cuts the BBC is having, using such a pathetic clip again is just unjustifiable.

I still cant work out how ED ever got the job. He spends his time sniggering and seems quite out of his depth.

And of course uses his position to do biased reporting.

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I think I saw someone ask about postal address for complaints. I think this is it:

BBC Complaints
PO Box 1922,
Darlington,
DL3 0UR.

www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints

or directly to PM via email: [email protected]

nauticant · 03/02/2023 16:30

No Evan Davis on PM tonight.

I wonder if they'll get the woman presenter, Carolyn Quinn I think, to apologise on his behalf?

Ladyofthesea · 03/02/2023 16:10

NeverTrustAPoliceman · 02/02/2023 17:20

I've never played a computer game in my life. Think I'll buy a few copies of this though.

Same here.

GCAcademic · 03/02/2023 14:49

It's £50 a copy, you must be in a very fortunate position to waste a couple hundred pounds at a time when lots of people are struggling to eat or pay bills.

Some women have jobs, money and autonomy. Shocking, isn't it?

ErrolTheDragon · 03/02/2023 14:37

Even if LGBT-supportive people do want to play this game, maybe it will be shared around on torrents or the pirate bay.

Sounds like someone is supporting theft there.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/02/2023 14:28

Even if LGBT-supportive people do want to play this game, maybe it will be shared around on torrents or the pirate bay.

Perhaps they should just go without, when so many people are struggling to eat or pay bills?

BigFrau · 03/02/2023 14:24

MargaritaPie · 03/02/2023 14:12

It's £50 a copy, you must be in a very fortunate position to waste a couple hundred pounds at a time when lots of people are struggling to eat or pay bills.

Even if LGBT-supportive people do want to play this game, maybe it will be shared around on torrents or the pirate bay.

Ha ha ha!! How dare you decide what to spend your own money on, @NeverTrustAPoliceman !

MargaritaPie · 03/02/2023 14:12

NeverTrustAPoliceman · 02/02/2023 17:20

I've never played a computer game in my life. Think I'll buy a few copies of this though.

It's £50 a copy, you must be in a very fortunate position to waste a couple hundred pounds at a time when lots of people are struggling to eat or pay bills.

Even if LGBT-supportive people do want to play this game, maybe it will be shared around on torrents or the pirate bay.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/02/2023 13:57

They pick female avatars in the games and start to believe they can do the same in real life too.

Yes I think this is a large part of it.

WifeOfTiresias · 03/02/2023 13:40

Just came on to see if there was a thread about this. Listened to this piece while driving yesterday and ended up shouting at the radio.

The piece from the start worked from the unchallenged assumption that the whole of society regards JKR as transphobic and the only question up for debate was if it was acceptable to "separate the art from the artist."Absolutely no balance whatsoever, just the opinions of two obvious TRAs with the only slight nod to the existence of other opinions being a throwaway remark by Evan. Davies that we should note that JKR doesn't herself think she is transphobic. Clearly no attempt was made to find speakers to put the other side of the debate.

News flash Evan, there are many, many people around the world who agree with JKR. This was one of the most blatantly unbalanced pieces of reporting I have heard in a long time and Evan really needs to be brought to account on this.

Shame on you BBC.

ByTheGrace · 03/02/2023 11:24

TheWitchesAreBackInTown · 02/02/2023 18:30

Lol. Kids being vilified. What planet is he from? They will be comparing notes and gameplay.

I think that depends on the age. DD is late teens and HP is not to be mentioned at school. Although she is buying the game, but won't tell anyone.

Boiledeggandtoast · 03/02/2023 11:16

I've complained too. It was a new low, even for Evan Davis who has form.

HagoftheNorth · 03/02/2023 09:16

Thank you born the complaints page I found said letters only, and there was no postal address immediately obvious - I was just gearing up to go looking, this is much better 😀