India Willoughby, Question Time Thu 2 Feb 2240

@hamstersarse , I was thinking the same as @Whatsnewpussyhat

I would add that there is no issue with misunderstanding - merely an attempt to persuade us that the waters are now so muddied that we have to cede more language. If any significant proportion of the general public subscribed to the Butlerian definition (which is what IW means by saying "I am a woman"), the SNP MP on Question Time and Nicola Sturgeon would have said that Isla Bryson/Adam Graham is a woman, and many would have gone along with it. It's because we all know (and they know) that the category "woman" is universally understood as a sex category, that neither of them could say it. Because he is a man and they know he has not changed sex.

By virtue of who I follow on Twitter O encounter a lot of India's tweets.

They spend rather a lot of time on MN, judging by the number of screenshots of posts I see.

I now have IW in my head like a hermit crab looking for a new shell ! 😁

Yes!
It's so interesting when India makes these sweeping generalisations that only serve to reveal India's own ignorance, prejudice and rank misogyny. Like when India said that everyone assumes that MN is for discussions about prams and nappies or something.

India has not the slightest inkling of what women's lives are.

I think this is part of the problem.

They live their loves in an echo chamber.
Blocking anyone who disagrees and end up just with people agreeing and applauding them.
Then when they are in the real world- apparently it's been fixed, a bunch of transphobes/ GC blockbooked.

Dear lord, Windy's been whingeing on Loose Women.

Windy's not even loosely a woman.

Yes. Important distinction to make.

Did anyone notice at the beginning Willoughby said that most people think women's prisons are like the WI, sitting around making jam and knitting. How fucking patronising. No, India, we don't think that. Our little, soft lady brains are actually able to understand what prison is like for women. Probably more than you do, you numpty.

I wouldn't mind so much, but India relies on the fact that they are male in order to make a living. It's their entire USP. If India was actually a biological woman, no one would give a fuck what they thought and they wouldn't be asked to comment on anything.

And India boasting on Twitter that they ignored a gender neutral toilet to walk 'miles' out of their way to access the women's facility at an airport, neatly demonstrates exactly why we need sex segregation.

Publicly bragging about making women uncomfortable, knowing other women will read it, constitutes exactly the sort of behaviour that sex segregation is set up to mitigate.

Let's get more of India on the telly. Aggressively making the case for women everywhere.

It has come to something when you hope that people in power are being dishonest rather than stupid.

Tbf, I don't think those things are mutually exclusive. It is perfectly possible that the person in question is both dishonest and stupid.

You don't often see Anne Widdicombe looking worried, but she certainly does in the clip posted up thread where India marches in to harangue them all.

I think you should.

And the page thing is driving me la la at the moment.

No.
Neither female nor woman should be used to refer to a male human, and 'man' and 'woman' are not bloody genders.
They can call themselves transwomen all they want but they still belong to the male sex class.

Besides, TRA's are now using trans female and referring to themselves as female because they refuse to allow women to differentiate ourselves in any way or with any words.

😂😂 classic.

Usually I can’t watch QT as it makes me want to rip out the tv and chuck it out the window.

Having read this thread I’m going to make an exception…I want to see Ella and yellow dress lady letting the sunlight stream in.

😁

Madcats · Today 12:09
"Predatory Lesbians" would be a good sequel to the Apple TV series "Bad Sisters" (I don't think any of them are lesbians, but I am only on episode 4, and really am not too sure what a lesbian is these days now that some have penises)

One of the Bad Sisters is a lesbian and I’m pretty sure Bibi doesn’t have a penis

Aw, thanks! My brain functions a bit like an old fashioned kaleidoscope, loads of scattered bits and pieces just rattling about and then with half-a-turn to the front cylinder a pattern forms (and I need to sketch it out on paper before it disappears again 😝)

I’m sort-of-half considering signing up for a Medium or Substack account and copying over some of my longer posts, if only because whole MN threads can vanish in the blink of an eye and if you spend your morning typing out not just your opinion on current events but also the thought process that led you to that opinion, including any relevant primary and secondary source links it’s a bit bloody annoying.

See also: the page reloading while you are mid post 😬

At first I wondered why no one commented but I then thought about it and realised that you’d have to be so incredibly careful what you said.

Yeah. Why don't they like me?

This was IW before QT. I genuinely think she bought into the SNP belief that self-id is totally supported by the public and she was entering la-la unicorn land. I think reality was a bit of a shock. I hope politicians took note of the mood too.

The other thing I noted in Fiona's introduction to IW, was the. assertion that IW is "a supporter of independence".

Honestly, I can't help thinking IW thought that would immediately endear her to a certain section of the public, because the SNP gov has established the principle that if you support Independence you can get away with almost anything. Sadly, the Scottish public keeps proving them correct by re-electing them. Not last night though.

The truth is too, that if the person representing TW on that panel was someone other than IW, the reaction would have been far worse. Imagine if someone built like Isla Bryson with a baritone voice sat there? Reality would have really hit home then. IW is the kind of TW the GRC imagined in 2004. Isla Bryson and her ilk are who self-id 2023 include.

Well said. Cervix jokes are fair enough, though.

Tbh I think at sone point last year we agreed it stood for Tired of Explaining Reality to Fuckwits 😁

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b006t1q9/question-time

Can I watch this on catch-up anywhere? It sounds really interesting

The two men on the panel quietly sitting in the corner hoping they dont picked on to talk