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31 Jan 15:15 Women & Equalities Committee - Scottish GRR Bill

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GreenUp · 30/01/2023 16:17

Tomorrow 31st Jan at 15:15 the UK Government's Women and Equalities Committee are holding an evidence gathering session in relation to the Scottish GRR Bill. We can watch on Parliament TV live.

The witnesses are:
Naomi Cunningham Barrister and member of legal feminist
Dr Michael Foran, Public Law lecturer at Glasgow University.
Lord Charlie Falconer Barrister
Robin White Barrister

committees.parliament.uk/event/17258/formal-meeting-oral-evidence-session/

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Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 19:29

Oh. I've lost the will to live its been suspended

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 19:27

FOJN · 31/01/2023 19:21

That's what I heard too.

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He was talking about T May was that about bringing self I'D in? Or was she looking to change the current system slightly?

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 19:25

Onto erotic cross dressers

Ahh the joys of politics. This is taking me back to 80s newspaper headlines.

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 19:23

Hmmmm 🤐🤐

FOJN · 31/01/2023 19:21

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 19:20

Robin has No GRC??

Did I hear right?

That's what I heard too.

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 19:20

Robin has No GRC??

Did I hear right?

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 19:19

2 different genders in the tax records?

Firstly Robin should know it's sex not gender and secondly how the fuck can the tax office do it but no other important department can?

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 19:17

WarriorN · 31/01/2023 19:16

At 49 mins is Maya cracking up because Helen showed her the #terfgogglebox pic?!

You what now?

WarriorN · 31/01/2023 19:16

At 49 mins is Maya cracking up because Helen showed her the #terfgogglebox pic?!

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 31/01/2023 19:14

using the correct-sexed pronouns, so that the whole thing is as clear as day

And nice simple 'man who thinks he's a woman'. No euphemistic messing.

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 19:09

EndlessTea · 31/01/2023 18:58

Yeah - that was a bit left field. 😂

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I feel swizzled out of something. We only got stirring cauldrons

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 19:06

Just got to "the law says if you don't have a GRC you are male"

Interesting. I wonder who doesn't have one and who does?

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 19:01

It's just got too much for Maya. She's having a fit of the giggles

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Whatsnewpussyhat · 31/01/2023 18:59

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 18:51

Look at their faces behind him whilst he talks absolute bollocks

The way he's holding his fingers/messing with his hands here shows he is very uncomfortable.

EndlessTea · 31/01/2023 18:58

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Yeah - that was a bit left field. 😂

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 18:58

And here's a laughing one

31 Jan 15:15 Women & Equalities Committee - Scottish GRR Bill
Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 18:51

Look at their faces behind him whilst he talks absolute bollocks

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drwitch · 31/01/2023 18:50

I guess it is now obvious that the interaction between the equality act and the gra is not clear and is contested which may provoke necessary reform

EndlessTea · 31/01/2023 18:41

I am just watching this now. Anum Qaisar Has clearly observed and learned from Caroline Nokes’ playbook of disingenuous questions, insincere affections and smug fallacies. Did she school her directly, or did they both get trained by the same fool?

Naomi Cunningham on the other hand. Wow. So perfectly pitched - taking down each nonsense intervention without being belittling or patronising (in the way that they actually deserved - what grace!) and using the correct-sexed pronouns, so that the whole thing is as clear as day.

Anum Qaisar was clearly flustered, because whoever briefed her before the session, told her the demand for ‘evidence for thousands’ would be the gotcha that would have the whole thing done and dusted, but because she was clearly briefed by someone a bit dim, it didn’t go according to plan and she was left all at sea.

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 18:40

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Signalbox · 31/01/2023 18:32

Crikey just watched this. None of the lawyers agree (even those on the same side). How on earth are services supposed to navigate this when none of the lawyers can agree?

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 18:13

Stranger that should say

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 18:13

OK who put a hex on me?

Sometime trtranger tranger than even my mind could conjure.

So, I thought I'd listen/watch the women and Equalities commitee whilst I pootled and had a bath etc. Didn't look at who was on the committee.

So I run the bath, carefully prop the tablet snuggled in a pile of my clothes on the closed toilet seat so I could watch from the bath.

I'm listening along, doing what you do.

So imagine my surprise at 15.37.26 when I hear a voice I recognise, look up and there they are sitting on my toilet in my clothes.

Honestly I never want to see that in my bathroom on my toilet ever again.

ResisterRex · 31/01/2023 18:13

I only caught about 10/15minutes but I thought Foran made some good points about same-sex direct and indirect discrimination, and comparators. I thought he was inviting the committee not to accept Haldane in its extreme form (IYSWIM).

Also good to see Rachel Maclean there. She seemed like she'd been reading up and was well-briefed, and on top of it.

RMW I thought was rude and kept butting in over Foran and Maclean, and chose to answer the question perhaps preferred, rather than asked. Maclean did well to keep it focused.