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Nicola Sturgeon should be a contortionist…

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CaveMum · 30/01/2023 14:33

The knots she manages to tie herself answering the question “Are transwomen women?” are a sight to behold!

Surely when she leaves politics she’s got a guaranteed job with Cirque du Soleil? 😜

twitter.com/peteradamsmith/status/1620051699900755970?s=46&t=VsKfG8lVuN7YC74X6n43cg

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Aphrathestorm · 31/01/2023 15:59

Has NS even ever visited Cornton Vale?

9 years is long enough in post to be planning her exit.

ValerieDoonican · 31/01/2023 12:05

Presumably the difference in the last two is you are not supposed to complain if it's a tw. But why , Nicola -and the rest of the no debate brigade?. What is the difference in the experiences that makes one a legitimate cause for discomfort and complaint, and the other one, bigotry?

ValerieDoonican · 31/01/2023 11:56

I'd like to ask Nicola Sturgeon what the difference is between being raped by a transwoman and being raped by a man who isn't a transwoman.

I assume that's an easy one for her?

Then I'd like to ask her the difference between being made uncomfortable by seeing the penis of a transwoman while getting undressed in the women's changing rooms at the pool, and being made uncomfortable by seeing the penis of a man who isn't a transwoman while getting undressed in the women's changing rooms at the pool.

When she's answered that, I'd like her to answer the question what is the difference between sending your teenage daughter to scout camp knowing she will be sharing her tent with an mtf trans teenager, and sending her to share a tent with a teenage boy who isn't trans.

What is the difference Nicola? Is there one? Is there really?

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 11:46

Anyone brave enough to check Beth's twitter and see what his take on this subject is?

Boiledbeetle · 31/01/2023 11:44

Wellies54 · 30/01/2023 20:45

It's only a matter of time before she cracks in an interview, shouts 'of course transwomen are men, it's a fucking stupid idea to put men in women's prisons, how the hell did I end up here?' before running screaming into the distance never to be seen again.

She was so close to it yesterday. Her head must be mashed. Bet she's got a stonking headache today

NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom · 31/01/2023 10:21

We gained loads of new terves yesterday.

Turns out a double racist who transitioned a a minute ago by buying a wig and a pink coat IS a WOMAN and anyone who hesitates on that for so much as a half second IS a TRANSPHOBE.

it was a great recruitment day, sisters!

Nicola Sturgeon and Benjamin Butterworth, welcome aboard, your cauldrons can be collected at the end of the induction session.

fromorbit · 31/01/2023 09:56

Sturgeon being denounced as a transphobe by a TRA journalist. Looks like she is joining the Terf club whether she wants to or not :
twitter.com/simonjedge/status/1620197145507758080

CaveMum · 31/01/2023 09:45

Could NS's days be numbered? This Tweet suggests the knives are out for her: twitter.com/JNHanvey/status/1620207823429816320?s=20&t=RbwImoQkar36MW9nsjyD4g

Also it feels significant that the Greens have stated they won't be in Parliament for FMQs as they are supporting striking workers, are they trying to distance themselves.....?

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Aphrathestorm · 31/01/2023 07:54

I saw a bit of it on the main news but they edited it so she doesn't look as bad as in the full video. Total propaganda!

TheClogLady · 30/01/2023 20:47

twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1620127849595166726/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1620127849595166726&currentTweetUser=Channel4News

Someone has their ‘bad day at the office’ face on!

Nicola Sturgeon should be a contortionist…
Wellies54 · 30/01/2023 20:45

It's only a matter of time before she cracks in an interview, shouts 'of course transwomen are men, it's a fucking stupid idea to put men in women's prisons, how the hell did I end up here?' before running screaming into the distance never to be seen again.

MoltenLasagne · 30/01/2023 20:43

RudsyFarmer · 30/01/2023 16:26

Oh god I’m cringing so hard for her. This is her legacy for ever more. When is a transwomen not a woman? It’s like the beginning of a terrible joke. They’re always a woman accept when they’re not! Bah boom.

"Why is a raven like a writing desk?"

Pretty sure Alice In Wonderland was meant to be absurdist fiction rather than inspiration for running a nation...

TheClogLady · 30/01/2023 20:13

😃

Nicola Sturgeon should be a contortionist…
TheClogLady · 30/01/2023 20:10

Hedjwitch · 30/01/2023 19:50

Great to see a journalist getting stuck in to her. Love it.
But all those now frantically distancing themselves need to remember we know how they voted. We will not forgive and not forget.

Someone on the transgender UK sub posted this earlier today, so clearly Women Won’t Wheesht are out and about, ensuring no one forgets a thing!

Nicola Sturgeon should be a contortionist…
JellySaurus · 30/01/2023 20:09

What's the betting she chose this hill to die on over Scottish autonomy, never believing that anything really bad would happen before she managed to persuade the Scots that Westminster was bullying them? After all, putting rapists (ie men) and other sex criminals (ie more men) in women's prisons was hardly new, and had not really been reported on before - except by disimissable hysterics like the tervs on Mumsnet.

Workerbeep · 30/01/2023 19:58

I heard SNP are even struggling to get anyone willing to stand in local authority council elections.

NotRightNowNo · 30/01/2023 19:52

FactsAreNotMean · 30/01/2023 18:40

So far he's no better. Can they not see how ridiculous they look at this point? A TW is a W unless they're violent to W then they're not a W, but they're only not a W for the purposes of prisons and they're still a W just not a W that can be with W, but they might not be a W, they might be a pretend W, but the day before they were convicted when they were running around in woman only spaces they were totally a W.

Fucking ridiculous

Perfectly put ⭐️

Hedjwitch · 30/01/2023 19:50

Great to see a journalist getting stuck in to her. Love it.
But all those now frantically distancing themselves need to remember we know how they voted. We will not forgive and not forget.

WhiteFire · 30/01/2023 19:42

Awkward.

Little Willie* in the comments is fighting her corner though.

*He is called Willie, I have added little, this is in no way casting aspersions.

Princessglittery · 30/01/2023 19:06

I want everyone who has ever uttered TWAW to be asked that question.

For some reason Lorraine Kelly’s interview with Dr Kathleen Stock keeps coming to mind where she kept saying TWAW TMAM.

AnyFucker · 30/01/2023 18:57

I cringed inside out watching that 😊

Fluster, stammer, fluster, stammer, death stare, fluster, wishes for ground to open up

Mollyollydolly · 30/01/2023 18:56

One of the glorious little asides to this is that it's ITVNews. Paul Brand head of ITV News has pushed this shite from the beginning at every possible opportunity. Isn't his partner Sunak's advisor? Probably why they've changed track on the conversion therapy bill.

He must be fuming today. It's bloody marvellous. I've watched it 20 times. All it took was a journalist to ask the bloody question.

ApocalipstickNow · 30/01/2023 18:51

Jesus Christ, this should have been dealt with years ago. How long have women raised this and been called transphobes, bigots, told that rights aren’t like pie and there’s no clash of rights?

If transwomen aren’t safe in men’s prison and women aren’t safe around transwomen (which in the case of sex offenders they certainly are not) then there needed to be some fucking thought put into a solution instead of parroting TWAW and ignoring evidence that shows how wrong this can go.

They have had years to find a solution. I sincerely hope those who threw out slurs, refused to listen to evidence and shat on women for cheap political points are called to answer for what they’ve created.

FactsAreNotMean · 30/01/2023 18:40

mcduffy · 30/01/2023 18:33

Great interviewing. I wonder if starmer is watching...

So far he's no better. Can they not see how ridiculous they look at this point? A TW is a W unless they're violent to W then they're not a W, but they're only not a W for the purposes of prisons and they're still a W just not a W that can be with W, but they might not be a W, they might be a pretend W, but the day before they were convicted when they were running around in woman only spaces they were totally a W.

Fucking ridiculous

mcduffy · 30/01/2023 18:33

Great interviewing. I wonder if starmer is watching...