Active discussions

Please or to access all these features

Talk
Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feminism: chat

Original poster

Andrew Burns AKA Tiffany Scott

407 replies

Signalbox · 28/01/2023 11:30

Wtf is going on? Another violent man being moved to a women's prison in Scotland. A man so violent they can't even take him to court and NHS staff refuse to treat him.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/new-trans-prisoner-storm-looms-29069314

OP posts:
Thread gallery
34
AlliwantforChristmasisgu · 30/01/2023 18:23

I am very concerned at the 'history of violence against women and girls' and even worse 'convicted of'. So a man with a history of violence against men is thought to be fine for admission to a women's prison?!

TheGreatATuin · 30/01/2023 18:04

That Sturgeon interview is hilarious. None of this stuff makes sense. Love seeing her asked to explain her own logic. 🤣
I am wondering about how reliable the stats they're giving are. If trans women are women, and are recorded as female at the point of arrest etc - as we know multiple police forces are happy to do - and if you can change your passport etc without a GRC as I know some have done - then where is this all being recorded that they're actually trans women and needing even that inadequate risk assessment? Are TW with a GRC even included in the figures?
And under what possible circumstances was it deemed appropriate to put a trans man in a male prison? How did that possibly pass a risk assessment?

CandlelightGlow · 30/01/2023 17:35

What NS has said is right and fair. I am concerned by the word "pause" as it's very alarming to me that one would need further consideration when you are considering inmates specifically with a history of violence or crimes directly against women and girls.

I am reassured by the fact that they have said about the "pause" possible becoming permanent.

nilsmousehammer · 30/01/2023 17:28

Labour experiencing squeaky bum time I see.

TheClogLady · 30/01/2023 17:22

That may be one of the biggest reverse ferrets yet!

Original poster
Signalbox · 30/01/2023 17:18

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-64431383

OP posts:
Original poster
Signalbox · 30/01/2023 17:17

Lol, Labour are now defending women's single sex spaces.

Shadow Scottish secretary Ian Murray told BBC Radio Scotland that events of the past week had been "botched" by the Scottish government and the justice secretary.

The Labour MP said: "I think in all reasonable terms people would see the current issues that are going on around the Isla Bryson case as being unreasonable.

"The Scottish government really do need to sort this out because the Equality Act is clear that single-sex spaces, including women's prisons, have got to be protected under the law, and it looks in this case as if people are being put in danger," he said.

OP posts:
Original poster
Signalbox · 30/01/2023 17:14

Now they're saying that a final decision had not been made in the case of Tiffany Scott...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-64431383

Mr Brown told the BBC's Good Morning Scotland programme that in the case of Tiffany Scott, a final decision on her prison placement had not been taken, contrary to some media reports.

OP posts:
IdidntshagHarry · 30/01/2023 16:47

Another very sick man. A man in woman's clothing is not a woman.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 30/01/2023 16:39

CaveMum · 30/01/2023 14:10

This is a thing of beauty, watch NS tie herself in knots when asked if TWAW by ITV

twitter.com/peteradamsmith/status/1620051699900755970?s=46&t=VsKfG8lVuN7YC74X6n43cg

Bah ha ha ha

i enjoyed that…thank you for posting

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 15:35

Signalbox · 30/01/2023 15:31

I wonder if it’s possible that TWAW becomes so widely mocked that they end up having to drop it as an idea?

When even the likes of RMW are refusing to accept twaw if they say they are, how can the public? It's just to insane when you actually see what's happening

Original poster
Signalbox · 30/01/2023 15:31

I wonder if it’s possible that TWAW becomes so widely mocked that they end up having to drop it as an idea?

OP posts:
Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 15:27

Do you think there's a part of her brain constantly shouting at her "NICOLA WAKE UP"

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 15:25

RealFeminist · 30/01/2023 14:33

WHAT MATTERS REALLY IS A PERSONS INNER ESSENCES AND THAT SHOWS YOU WHERE TO PUT THEM

Nicola love I'm putting you to bed early with no supper.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 30/01/2023 15:11

TheClogLady · 30/01/2023 15:01

This Twitter comment made me cackle.

Nicola hen

is it possible that if you can’t answer basic questions on this, you haven’t really thought it through?

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 30/01/2023 15:06

CaveMum Layla Moran is the lady you may depend on.

TheClogLady · 30/01/2023 15:01

This Twitter comment made me cackle.

Andrew Burns AKA Tiffany Scott
CaveMum · 30/01/2023 14:35

RealFeminist · 30/01/2023 14:33

WHAT MATTERS REALLY IS A PERSONS INNER ESSENCES AND THAT SHOWS YOU WHERE TO PUT THEM

Maybe that’s the trick we’re missing - they could roll out that Lib Dem MP (whose name escapes me) who claims to be able to able to see people’s souls!

She could be like a Sorting Hat for prisons, though not sure NS would approve of the HP connection 😜

RealFeminist · 30/01/2023 14:33

WHAT MATTERS REALLY IS A PERSONS INNER ESSENCES AND THAT SHOWS YOU WHERE TO PUT THEM

RealFeminist · 30/01/2023 14:30

TOTALY UNFAIR QUESTIONS IMO

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 30/01/2023 14:29

CaveMum · 30/01/2023 14:10

This is a thing of beauty, watch NS tie herself in knots when asked if TWAW by ITV

twitter.com/peteradamsmith/status/1620051699900755970?s=46&t=VsKfG8lVuN7YC74X6n43cg

Both entertaining and enraging

it’s basically the same conversation we’ve been having on here with various ploppers for at least the 7 years I’ve been hanging around

why did I ever think anyone had a plausible answer to what makes transwomen women?’

mrshoho · 30/01/2023 14:24

CaveMum · 30/01/2023 14:10

This is a thing of beauty, watch NS tie herself in knots when asked if TWAW by ITV

twitter.com/peteradamsmith/status/1620051699900755970?s=46&t=VsKfG8lVuN7YC74X6n43cg

And this is where the entire ideology collapses. No wonder when all along it has been based on a lie. All the mantras 'acception without exception' 'TWAW TWAM' are empty slogans.

CaveMum · 30/01/2023 14:10

This is a thing of beauty, watch NS tie herself in knots when asked if TWAW by ITV

twitter.com/peteradamsmith/status/1620051699900755970?s=46&t=VsKfG8lVuN7YC74X6n43cg

DaughterOfPsychiatrist · 30/01/2023 13:51

CaveMum · 30/01/2023 12:06

I can’t get round the paywall but the date of this article suggests Katie was released mid-January, which coincides with Westminster blocking the GRA reform.

www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/courts/4062580/dolatowski-deferred-sentence-polmont/

I think WoS has the quote from behind that paywall (see ss)

Dolatowski must have a rapidly growing rap sheet?

The two toilet attacks on girls (one in Dunfermline, one in Kirkcaldy)
The breach of restriction conditions (when found living in a women’s refuge in Leeds)
The physical assault on the male prisoner in Polmont Young Offenders
and news reports say the Polmont sentence was due to another physical assault in Glasgow? I can’t find anything about that one so no idea if the victim was male or female.

Plus comments on reddit about a child sex images conviction with a suspended sentence that perhaps predates all of this? KD’s boyfriend was also convicted and got a two year sentence, apparently?

Andrew Burns AKA Tiffany Scott
Andrew Burns AKA Tiffany Scott
Blister · 30/01/2023 13:49

I'm finding all the extreme chat of violence rather disturbing. Why does the talk need these kids of examples for people to remember women require dignity. Women deserve dignity. The ability to share intimate spaces with other women. Some men find this insulting, ok but we still need this space. Some women want to be one of the boys, I'll let the men deal with that, but women still require dignity. Saying you can't come into our sports, showers and toilets is not the equivalent of letting women into the boardroom.