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Andrew Burns AKA Tiffany Scott

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Signalbox · 28/01/2023 11:30

Wtf is going on? Another violent man being moved to a women's prison in Scotland. A man so violent they can't even take him to court and NHS staff refuse to treat him.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/new-trans-prisoner-storm-looms-29069314

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Signalbox · 28/01/2023 16:01

PriOn1 · 28/01/2023 15:56

It was outlined on another thread.

They ask him where he wants to be, and how distressed he will be if they put him in with the other men. And they ask him whether he’s been a laydee for a while.

They might remember to look at his criminal record a bit, but it’s probably not that important, given there are so many essential reasons why he should be placed where he wants to be.

I had always assumed they were assessing risk to the female inmates but in view of the terrible decisions they make it makes much more sense that they are not considering women at all, only the men with womanly feelings.

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Theunamedcat · 28/01/2023 16:00

Maybe they are hoping for a loud and public incident at the prison then they can reverse the policy 🤔 I really can see no other reason for it to be allowed to continue

Babdoc · 28/01/2023 15:57

This is the man who slashed a fellow inmate’s face open with a razor, scarring him for life with a wound that needed 18 stitches. Then, when in hospital attacked nurses and was so violent it took ELEVEN security and prison staff to restrain him.
God help the women inmates and warders when this utter horror arrives in the female prison.
I never had any respect for Sturgeon’s intellect, but now it’s apparent she is stark raving mad.

PriOn1 · 28/01/2023 15:56

TheGreatATuin · 28/01/2023 15:52

I don't really understand this. We keep hearing that there are risk assessments. I'd like to know what on earth these assessments look like. They're clearly not worth anything

It was outlined on another thread.

They ask him where he wants to be, and how distressed he will be if they put him in with the other men. And they ask him whether he’s been a laydee for a while.

They might remember to look at his criminal record a bit, but it’s probably not that important, given there are so many essential reasons why he should be placed where he wants to be.

TheGreatATuin · 28/01/2023 15:52

I don't really understand this. We keep hearing that there are risk assessments. I'd like to know what on earth these assessments look like. They're clearly not worth anything

mrshoho · 28/01/2023 15:52

Would nicola sturgeon be OK sitting in a room with him? Why the hell should any woman be expected to share any space with him. I wouldn't expect female staff to be anywhere near him either.

beastlyslumber · 28/01/2023 15:51

Holy fuck. The only possible good thing ro say is at least the mainstream press are FINALLY paying attention to this.

Signalbox · 28/01/2023 15:43

PriOn1 · 28/01/2023 15:29

Given the current furore on the rapist case, I can’t help wondering whether the person who made this decision is actually one of us! The timing is spectacular.

It is spectacular timing. I wonder who the “source” of the information is? Perhaps this is someone who works within the prison service who saw an opportunity to get the story out there at a time when it could have the most impact.

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ArabellaScott · 28/01/2023 15:43

Insane.

MarshaBradyo · 28/01/2023 15:35

euch that photo

So bad it’s evil

MarshaBradyo · 28/01/2023 15:34

Insane

PriOn1 · 28/01/2023 15:29

Given the current furore on the rapist case, I can’t help wondering whether the person who made this decision is actually one of us! The timing is spectacular.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 28/01/2023 15:28

Tiffany in court

Andrew Burns AKA Tiffany Scott
littlbrowndog · 28/01/2023 15:26

Write to our MPs nad msps

littlbrowndog · 28/01/2023 15:26

Ffs. He is so violent. Hope he doesn’t get put in women’s prison

how can this be happening in Scotland

all of these violent men being put in women’s prisons

Skyellaskerry · 28/01/2023 15:20

Gets more horrific by the day.

What, practically, can we do?

Alienbigcat45 · 28/01/2023 14:22

This is so outrageous, of all the psychos to put in women's prison they green light this one. (Not that any man should be housed in a women's prison). The prison officers association better start protecting their female members too.

FOJN · 28/01/2023 14:15

FFS the SNP and the SPS are bastards.

I want individuals held to account for this decision.

HiccupHorrendousHaddock · 28/01/2023 14:07

Andrew Burns bit through his own wrist and sprayed the blood at staff. He should be locked in a secure unit, not housed with women.

Boiledbeetle · 28/01/2023 14:06

MrsOvertonsWindow · 28/01/2023 12:33

He's considered to be one of the most dangerous prisoners in Scotland - yet they're going to send him to a women's prison?

twitter.com/AshtenRegan/status/1619285644345503746

Nicola keeps falling back to the fact that the prison service or who ever it is who makes the decision is competent and know what they are doing.

This case proves they obviously do not

YouJustDoYou · 28/01/2023 13:55

Oh, but he's an ex male, you see, with female feelings aka mini skirt, low cut top and bright pink lipstick, so we MUST believe "her" and let "her" have access to the vulnerable women, many of whom have already experienced violent, abusive relationships with males and sexual violence. Because only "her" feelings matter. Not their right to safety from penis and emotional trauma. Only "she" matters.

Fuck Women, right?

Signalbox · 28/01/2023 13:27

MrsOvertonsWindow · 28/01/2023 12:33

He's considered to be one of the most dangerous prisoners in Scotland - yet they're going to send him to a women's prison?

twitter.com/AshtenRegan/status/1619285644345503746

I’d love to see the risk assessment they’ve done for this person. I wonder on what basis a man would be considered to be too much of a risk to be transferred?

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Datun · 28/01/2023 12:57

ScreamingBeans · 28/01/2023 12:35

There is a massive long queue of these violent men, not just in Scotland, but in the rest of the UK, who the media have up to now declined to let the public know about.

I'm not sure if MN allows us to call them men so this post might be deleted, but the reason this is happening, is because the media have not been informing the public and so a tiny bunch of activists have convinced the people in charge that this is the right side of history.

The media do seem to be letting rip about all this. These men are known about, although I didn't think this particular maniac had been given leave to go to a women's prison.

Hopefully it won't actually happen, but the process to let it happen will continue to be challenged.

I wish the media had reported on it more, but at least they are now allowing the floodgates to open. Driven by commercial self interest, I'm sure.

But the outrage and horror that many women have been feeling for years, is finally being reflected in the media. Thank fuck.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 28/01/2023 12:36

Another terrifying man who's in a women's prison in Scotland:

twitter.com/oceanbreathcafe/status/1618802678376845312?s=46&t=AiHxH-1ATVKi6tJzGzWA8A

ScreamingBeans · 28/01/2023 12:35

There is a massive long queue of these violent men, not just in Scotland, but in the rest of the UK, who the media have up to now declined to let the public know about.

I'm not sure if MN allows us to call them men so this post might be deleted, but the reason this is happening, is because the media have not been informing the public and so a tiny bunch of activists have convinced the people in charge that this is the right side of history.