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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Andrew Burns AKA Tiffany Scott

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Signalbox · 28/01/2023 11:30

Wtf is going on? Another violent man being moved to a women's prison in Scotland. A man so violent they can't even take him to court and NHS staff refuse to treat him.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/new-trans-prisoner-storm-looms-29069314

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TheClogLady · 29/01/2023 00:05

It would be great if ‘sex change’ were actually possible.

We could cure all the little haemophiliac boys straight after birth by making them into girls.

And we could end male violence by transitioning all the violent male offenders into females (because if sex change was real, we would be able to see evidence in the criminal behavioural patterns of post transition people).

We’d literally be able to stop 95-99 % of sex and/or violent crime overnight and we’d thus save a fortune on the public funds currently spent on policing/the courts and probation system and prisons!

Even with the additional costs for the NHS the books should more than balance. Prisons cost a fortune.

So what shall we spend our extra public fund fantasy cash on, wimms?

As an aside, It Is SO WEIRD that a bunch of people have started denying that sex differences exist at the exact same point in time that research on the human genome is proving that there are MORE sex differences than anyone had ever anticipated. The future of medicine is going to be DNA based, and yes, chromosomes are part of our DNA.

Cops can already find out if a perp is male or female via testing trace evidence on a discarded cigarette butt, for chrissakes!
And no, they aren’t testing for lipstick residue.

Is this a recognised phenomenon? Did more people start believing in aliens AFTER humans invented space travel?

allthemissingfucks · 28/01/2023 23:57

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Why don't you offer to house him then?
I'm sure he'd be a charming house guest.
A delight to share a confined space with.
You can have pillow fights and do each others hair.

Idwtlotpam · 28/01/2023 23:54

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FactsAreNotMean · 28/01/2023 23:42

Idwtlotpam · 28/01/2023 23:28

What would you call someone who has to take estrogen supplements because their body doesn't produce it?

Janice, Bob, Kathy - whatever their name is.

Both males and females produce estrogen, just in different quantities.

FactsAreNotMean · 28/01/2023 23:37

Anyone got the bingo card? Think we're missing
Intersex
Infertile women
TW are just the same as women who have had surgery to remove various female bodily parts
Suicide rates

Anything else?

Waitwhat23 · 28/01/2023 23:36

The most important one.

We're not service humans, or human shields, or willing to be the subjects of a social experiment.

Andrew Burns AKA Tiffany Scott
mrshoho · 28/01/2023 23:34

Waitwhat23 · 28/01/2023 23:28

Yeah, I lied about behaving myself. I've just too many relevant memes!

😁😆 I think it must be the wine but this is funny. You have to laugh at the craziness. I'm watching the stock aitkin waterman program and wishing it was 1989 again.

BlessedKali · 28/01/2023 23:29

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Andrew Burns AKA Tiffany Scott
Signalbox · 28/01/2023 23:29

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Andrew Burns AKA Tiffany Scott
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littlbrowndog · 28/01/2023 23:29

Aye. You are right. Off to bed to leave the tiresome derailer to chat their mad shite into the wilderness

Waitwhat23 · 28/01/2023 23:28

Yeah, I lied about behaving myself. I've just too many relevant memes!

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Idwtlotpam · 28/01/2023 23:28

littlbrowndog · 28/01/2023 23:22

Peter or Frank or Bruce.

what names would you choose

What would you call someone who has to take estrogen supplements because their body doesn't produce it?

BlessedKali · 28/01/2023 23:27

STOP ARGUING WITH THE DERAILER. THEIR INTENTION IS TO DISTRACT US FROM TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO, EVERYTIME YOU REPLY YOU AREN'T SCHOOLING ANYONE, YOU ARE JUST FEEDING THE TROLL

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Andrew Burns AKA Tiffany Scott
littlbrowndog · 28/01/2023 23:26

And if you were locked up with him you would not be so daft

you would be frightened.

you read what he did. Assaulted nurses. Bit prison guards. Too dangerous to be in court

it took 13 security guards to stop him.

Idwtlotpam · 28/01/2023 23:25

BlessedKali · 28/01/2023 22:59

PLEASE DO ALLOW IT TO BE DERAILED BY ARGUING WITH A TEENAGER. Dont feed them and they go away.

We all know the answers.

I'm 40.

This is 'mums'net, right?

I'm interested to know...

How you'd feel if this was your child/grandchild?

Whether you think a woman who beat her teenage daughter should be incarcerated alongside young women?

FlirtsWithRhinos · 28/01/2023 23:25

Idwtlotpam · 28/01/2023 22:53

Please explain how a fully transitioned teans woman is biologically different from someone born female.

Veery few trans women have even partially transitioned, let alone fully.

But the few who have still biologically have different chromosomes, different skeletons, different endocrine systems, different immune systems, different internal reproductive systems, don't and never have had periods, don't and never have had the possibility of pregnancy, different metabolisms, on average taller and stronger, not just because of their size but relative to a biological female of similar size...

Oh, I'm sorry, did you think a female human is just like a male human except with tits and a fuck-hole? Something you can assemble from parts? No. We are complete, entire beings in our own right.

But that's just a side track, because your question about biology misses the point.

We don't segregate men and women in vulnerable situations, or create female-only protections and opportunities to empower women, simply because we are biologically different. We do this because living with that biology in this society has consequences. The difference between a man - an adult human male - and a woman - an adult human female - is not simply their bodies today, but the whole lives lived, in those bodies, with the capabilities they bring, the experiences they do and do not have, the way others see and treat them and what that in turn leads them to believe about themselves, their place in society and their relationships with their own and the opposite sex. We do it because too often, male bodied people are socialised to believe they are better than women, more real than women, more important than women, and therefore entitled to women's bodies, focus and support. And too often, women are socialised to believe it too.

So even if you could throw a bio-switch and transform a male body into one that was 100% female, you'd still have a person without that experience of being born a female child and growing into a female adult, a person whose life experience up to that point was that of a male.

Signalbox · 28/01/2023 23:24

littlbrowndog · 28/01/2023 23:22

Peter or Frank or Bruce.

what names would you choose

😂

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littlbrowndog · 28/01/2023 23:24

Stop being a daftie. This violent criminal is a man

Signalbox · 28/01/2023 23:23

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littlbrowndog · 28/01/2023 23:22

Idwtlotpam · 28/01/2023 23:19

What would you call someone who has breasts, a vagina and a body full of estrogen if not female?

Peter or Frank or Bruce.

what names would you choose

mrshoho · 28/01/2023 23:21

Boomboom22 · 28/01/2023 23:14

What makes this even worse is that when women are extremely violent sometimes they are sent to men's prison as they are risk assessed as too dangerous yo ve with the other female prisoners. so wtaf is going on here?

What? Wth is going on?

Idwtlotpam · 28/01/2023 23:19

Signalbox · 28/01/2023 23:04

Does "fully transitioned" now just mean changing ones name to Tiffany.

The idea that this man has "transitioned" to the point where he is somehow closer to being female than male is utterly absurd. Honestly, people who believe this have lost their minds.

What would you call someone who has breasts, a vagina and a body full of estrogen if not female?

mrshoho · 28/01/2023 23:17

Waitwhat23 · 28/01/2023 23:08

I promise I'll behave after this one

Keep them coming. Thine eyes have seen and all that!

Boomboom22 · 28/01/2023 23:14

What makes this even worse is that when women are extremely violent sometimes they are sent to men's prison as they are risk assessed as too dangerous yo ve with the other female prisoners. so wtaf is going on here?

TheClogLady · 28/01/2023 23:12

Idwtlotpam · 28/01/2023 22:33

1, please tell me where you've seen evidence that the acts of violence committed by this person haven't also been committed by any women currently in the Scottish prison system?

  1. Incorrect. Educate yourself on gender reassignment processes.
  2. See above.
  1. No, YOU provide evidence that there is a biologically female woman currently incarcerated in the Scottish system who HAS GOT the exact same violent record as this male offender! it’s not logically possible for me to provide evidence of something that hasn’t happened, you big dafty 😃
  2. A man who has altered his appearance via hormonal and surgical procedures is a man who has altered his appearance via hormonal and surgical alterations. A flayed and inverted penis is not a vagina, they are two different organs - you can’t turn a penis into a vagina just like you can’t turn a lung into a kidney. Besides, transgender people are not obligated to have any hormonal or surgical interventions in life or in law, so you sound a bit ‘truscum’ as the transactivists are wont to say.

Recognising a mammal’s sex is just an observation, it’s not a value judgement.

I have a male dog and female dog of the same breed. The male is significantly bigger, faster and stronger than the female.
Cutting his nuts off hasn’t made him shrink nor made him slower, nor made him weaker.
He’s 35kg and has very little body fat castration hasn’t changed that.

I can try swapping his red collar for a pink one if you like, but he’s still going to beat my female dog in a race, regardless of what colour he’s wearing.

Humans are mammals too 🤷‍♀️

Tiffany is an adult human male with a history of violence.