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If your husband joked you were ‘nattering too much'

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AshTreesEverywhere · 27/01/2023 16:11

Would you think this is an example of sexism?

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Luredbyapomegranate · 27/01/2023 17:08

You’d have to give a context.

I would use nattering to mean chatting and would apply it to either sex, so as a word it isn’t intrinsically sexist no. It’s not intrinsically negative either. A good natter is a good thing.

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 27/01/2023 17:05

And as for sexism, Kate has willingly married into one of the most sexist institutions in the country; I can only imagine she feels that being able to lavish herself in fripperies while patronising people who can't afford food makes it all worthwhile.

Mafelicent · 27/01/2023 17:01

Would he same the same to a male friend/colleague/brother etc? I find "natter" is usually only used towards women, and usually in the context that what they have to say is trivial nonsense. I know that some people use it to just mean "chat", though.

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 27/01/2023 16:57

LydiaBin · 27/01/2023 16:52

some context: William and Kate are at a food bank in Windsor, where they're put into the usual artificial 'tasks' running alongside each other so they can engage with the maximum number of volunteers in the time available. Yes, it is like a weird Royal version of The Generation Game. William is on food parcels; Kate is on tins and pasta. Time is obviously running on and Kate is chatting to the tins volunteers who obvs want to tell her all about the food bank, so William hurries them up by jovially announcing that there's 'too much nattering going on!' and they need to speed up. Assembled press seize on this 'adorable' casual exchange between the married couple from Berkshire, 41 and 40.

That's it. He didn't bellow, 'Shut up with your incessant nattering, you flloish woman'. Meanwhile food bank volunteers go home and tell their family they 'nattered' with the Princess of Wales.

Oh, I see. Well, W & K are both totally unreasonable for being sponging layabouts. If the food bank wanted them there, fair enough, but personally, if I even had the effrontery to show my face in a food bank after spending £176,000 on clothes last year, I'd be keeping my mouth firmly shut. William and Kate are not fit to lick the boots of people who volunteer in food banks.

LydiaBin · 27/01/2023 16:52

some context: William and Kate are at a food bank in Windsor, where they're put into the usual artificial 'tasks' running alongside each other so they can engage with the maximum number of volunteers in the time available. Yes, it is like a weird Royal version of The Generation Game. William is on food parcels; Kate is on tins and pasta. Time is obviously running on and Kate is chatting to the tins volunteers who obvs want to tell her all about the food bank, so William hurries them up by jovially announcing that there's 'too much nattering going on!' and they need to speed up. Assembled press seize on this 'adorable' casual exchange between the married couple from Berkshire, 41 and 40.

That's it. He didn't bellow, 'Shut up with your incessant nattering, you flloish woman'. Meanwhile food bank volunteers go home and tell their family they 'nattered' with the Princess of Wales.

MichelleScarn · 27/01/2023 16:49

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 27/01/2023 16:46

Yes, but, bluntly, how reasonable is this? Is the husband trying to concentrate on a task and has already asked his wife if she'd mind waiting till he'd finished before talking? Is the wife interrupting and dominating a conversation, not allowing others to get a word in?

Or has it been said in the context of a normal conversation she was having with him and/or others?

Quite! How many times have people posted about trying to wfh or do a task that requires concentration and someone is just talking at them! Thats how i would take this, its not actually a conversation, it's the natterer just wanting to dominate and talk AT someone!

TheClogLady · 27/01/2023 16:47

AshTreesEverywhere · 27/01/2023 16:35

Sad to see you all endorsing sexism and even in one case posting sexist comments. Feminism! Pah!

Please share your reasoning for why you believe that a man saying his wife is ‘nattering too much’ is being sexist, rather than time conscious and trying to speed things along in a jokey and informal manner?

This is a discussion forum, you’ve brought the topic to us, do you want discuss it or was this just some sort of purity test?

Actively looking for offence in really rather benign interactions is bad for one’s mental health, imo.

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 27/01/2023 16:46

AshTreesEverywhere · 27/01/2023 16:19

The context is a husband saying to his wife that she is nattering too much.

Yes, but, bluntly, how reasonable is this? Is the husband trying to concentrate on a task and has already asked his wife if she'd mind waiting till he'd finished before talking? Is the wife interrupting and dominating a conversation, not allowing others to get a word in?

Or has it been said in the context of a normal conversation she was having with him and/or others?

Alcemeg · 27/01/2023 16:42

I really like the word "natter" - it's what you do over the garden fence, male or female. It's not like he's put her in a scold's bridle.

SortingOutStuff · 27/01/2023 16:41

AshTreesEverywhere · 27/01/2023 16:35

Sad to see you all endorsing sexism and even in one case posting sexist comments. Feminism! Pah!

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AshTreesEverywhere · 27/01/2023 16:35

Sad to see you all endorsing sexism and even in one case posting sexist comments. Feminism! Pah!

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TheClogLady · 27/01/2023 16:26

I wouldn’t jump to that conclusion, no.

’Nattering’ is one of those words that probably was a bit sexist once upon a time (what’s the etymology of it?) but nowadays it seems to be used in a fairly even way to describe anyone, male or female, having a pleasant, friendly discussion that is a bit more involved/enthusiastic than a mere ‘chat’.

The last time I had a really good natter it was on the doorstep with my regular (male) postie.

Antaboo · 27/01/2023 16:20

The husband is guilty of thinking he can speak freely to his wife in a jokey manner as he would to a close friend or mate, rather than an acquaintance who analyzes his every word searching for something to be offended by. The mad fool.

LydiaBin · 27/01/2023 16:20

Is this about the Prince & Princess of Wales on the food bank visit? If so, it was surely just a jokey nudge to move on so they could stick to a pre-arranged timetable.

AshTreesEverywhere · 27/01/2023 16:19

The context is a husband saying to his wife that she is nattering too much.

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PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 27/01/2023 16:16

Need more context.

IheardYouButDontWantToAnswer · 27/01/2023 16:12

No, not at all. I might find some other people to talk to, though. Men aren't interested in chit-chat