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Is Peter Tatchell doing a reverse ferret?

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ColinRobinsonsFart · 27/01/2023 00:37

Old Pete is now saying he never said TWAW… oh dear…

twitter.com/petertatchell/status/1618726763345117185?s=46&t=p8SWvwIhWUMo1pwAr7EJMw

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Boiledbeetle · 27/01/2023 15:56

ResisterRex · 27/01/2023 15:04

No definitely not he's never said that. And I listened right to the very end. No didn't say that at all.

Boiledbeetle · 27/01/2023 15:54

ResisterRex · 27/01/2023 15:49

Nice and clear from Tatchell (spoiler - it's not)

twitter.com/treesey/status/1618966720722669569?s=46&t=iWJTNcyLETZ2grVmt3XXyg

No but yeah but no.....

Boiledbeetle · 27/01/2023 15:52

SinnerBoy · 27/01/2023 14:36

Boiledbeetle · Today 12:54

It feels like one of those caption competition photos

"Road Runner's disguise was so effective, that Wile E. Coyote hadn't notice the anvil."

🏆

ResisterRex · 27/01/2023 15:49

Nice and clear from Tatchell (spoiler - it's not)

twitter.com/treesey/status/1618966720722669569?s=46&t=iWJTNcyLETZ2grVmt3XXyg

ValerieDoonican · 27/01/2023 15:48

Interesting @Cuppasoupmonster @Anactor and @EndlessTea , thank you. All food for thought.

ResisterRex · 27/01/2023 15:04

He definitely never said TWAW. Never.

twitter.com/wingsscotland/status/1618984777624981504?s=46&t=y-YPG6ntqVP00njCh7ZI7w

SinnerBoy · 27/01/2023 14:36

Boiledbeetle · Today 12:54

It feels like one of those caption competition photos

"Road Runner's disguise was so effective, that Wile E. Coyote hadn't notice the anvil."

BlueBooh · 27/01/2023 14:11

Sadly supersange how true that is.

Ridiculous that raising a safeguarding issue in a school could negatively affect you. Even more bloody so in education.

I admire your commitment think I'd have given up long ago. Flowers

SuperSange · 27/01/2023 14:02

BlueBooh · 27/01/2023 13:44

Boiledbeetle
@SuperSange

You do realise that the collective blood pressure of mumsnet has just gone through the roof don't you?

Well quite. They're A level students, specifically speaking to the PPE and amnesty societies. I think I'll have a qt word with the organiser.

Quiet??? Think you need to be shouting from the rooftops about this man's background.

Good luck supersange

I'll keep it on the qt thanks; I kind of need my job?

EndlessTea · 27/01/2023 14:00

Anactor · 27/01/2023 13:45

Peter Tatchell’s generation was in their mid teens before male homosexuals could legally have sex at all. There was no consent. Then it wasn’t until 1997 that the age of consent was lowered to the same age as for heterosexual sex. For a long time, it was 21.

Yeah, from talking to gay guys of that generation, their age boundaries are often very blurred. Legally, sleeping with a twenty year old boyfriend was exactly the same as sleeping with a fourteen year old.

When there’s a boundary that’s in the wrong place, the predators and dismantlers will move in and take advantage. And often, because people know that the legal boundaries are discriminatory, they won’t realise that the ‘there shouldn’t be any boundaries’ types are grooming them.

because people know that the legal boundaries are discriminatory, they won’t realise that the ‘there shouldn’t be any boundaries’ types are grooming them.

Interestingly enough, I have literally just been reading James Morton’s contribution to CB’s Trans Britain and JM says that it was campaigns around The Sex Offenders Bill which led to Pride Scotland becoming ‘trans-inclusive’.

Is Peter Tatchell doing a reverse ferret?
Anactor · 27/01/2023 13:45

ValerieDoonican · 27/01/2023 12:23

PT has been doing a terrible disservice to LGB people, hasn't he?

I was thinking about the people for whom trans has a sexual/sexuality component, expressed for example in how they dress or how they post on social media. And how the only trans person I know irl gets on with their job and wears jeans and a sweater like everyone else. And isn't like that at all afaik.

And then I was thinking about Pride, and how over-sexualised it is to my eyes. Whereas the gay people in my life express their sexuality in exactly the same way I do, ie via who they live with/marry, but not as a "statement". And I feel that is surely the norm?

So my question is, was the gay liberation movement : driven by? infiltrated by? attractive to? co-opted by? predatory or boundary-dismantling types all along?

Or was it simply a wider liberal movement that attracted dubious characters, like any social / political movement will?

Only pondering incoherently here, happy to have my thoughts sorted out by someone more clear-thinking.

Peter Tatchell’s generation was in their mid teens before male homosexuals could legally have sex at all. There was no consent. Then it wasn’t until 1997 that the age of consent was lowered to the same age as for heterosexual sex. For a long time, it was 21.

Yeah, from talking to gay guys of that generation, their age boundaries are often very blurred. Legally, sleeping with a twenty year old boyfriend was exactly the same as sleeping with a fourteen year old.

When there’s a boundary that’s in the wrong place, the predators and dismantlers will move in and take advantage. And often, because people know that the legal boundaries are discriminatory, they won’t realise that the ‘there shouldn’t be any boundaries’ types are grooming them.

BlueBooh · 27/01/2023 13:44

Boiledbeetle
@SuperSange

You do realise that the collective blood pressure of mumsnet has just gone through the roof don't you?

Well quite. They're A level students, specifically speaking to the PPE and amnesty societies. I think I'll have a qt word with the organiser.

Quiet??? Think you need to be shouting from the rooftops about this man's background.

Good luck supersange

Boiledbeetle · 27/01/2023 13:19

Can these students be asked to do some deep dive research of their own on the past life of this gentleman? Not current LGBT stuff. Phrase it as who was the man before the man we all know now.

Helleofabore · 27/01/2023 13:16

And really, let them see his comments about underage marriage and show the video where he advocates that children benefit from watching porn as well as his position on child sexual abuse - his real position. Where he doubles down that it is only abuse if the child views it as abuse.

Because this man is not 'harmless'.

ArabellaScott · 27/01/2023 13:15

SuperSange · 27/01/2023 13:06

Well quite. They're A level students, specifically speaking to the PPE and amnesty societies. I think I'll have a qt word with the organiser.

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Cuppasoupmonster · 27/01/2023 13:09

Please do!!!!

SuperSange · 27/01/2023 13:06

Boiledbeetle · 27/01/2023 13:02

@SuperSange

You do realise that the collective blood pressure of mumsnet has just gone through the roof don't you?

Well quite. They're A level students, specifically speaking to the PPE and amnesty societies. I think I'll have a qt word with the organiser.

Boiledbeetle · 27/01/2023 13:02

@SuperSange

You do realise that the collective blood pressure of mumsnet has just gone through the roof don't you?

Helleofabore · 27/01/2023 13:00

And please use the letter about him supporting leaving the underage married girl with her adult husband....

BlueBooh · 27/01/2023 12:59

SuperSange · 27/01/2023 12:56

Not to staff; students.

Dear god!!! Does the person who arranged for him to come in know his background????

Helleofabore · 27/01/2023 12:59

SuperSange · 27/01/2023 12:56

Not to staff; students.

Sorry? Students?

What age range?

If they are primary or secondary, I would be showing the Head teacher the things that he has written and alerting the Head?

StephanieSuperpowers · 27/01/2023 12:59

SuperSange · 27/01/2023 12:56

Not to staff; students.

Oh well, I'm sure they will need to be prepared for the visit with an uncompromising understanding of what he stands for (assuming they're over 16, of course).

Boiledbeetle · 27/01/2023 12:57

SuperSange · 27/01/2023 12:56

Not to staff; students.

😱😳😵😡👿

Cuppasoupmonster · 27/01/2023 12:56

Boiledbeetle · 27/01/2023 12:55

Excellent prepare your questions now! I'm sure people will Send you lovely suggestions.

Quite simply mine would be to read verbatim what he said about sex with underage children, and ask why he said it?

SuperSange · 27/01/2023 12:56

Not to staff; students.

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