Anybody considering home schooling because of all of this gender fuckery?

Teacher PoV (secondary): I have yet to come across a happy and healthy, well-adjusted teen who is trans/ non-binary. I am extremely concerned about the mental health and wellbeing of a lot of our pupils. I also note that there is one pupil with anorexia in a school of 1200 and at least ten who are trans/ non-binary/ boys wearing skirts. I just hope I don't say the wrong thing and incur the wrath of the trans lobby.

They can't be, that has to be a wind up....

Most kids, ime, quietly roll their eyes at the trans stuff. All the homeschooled children I’ve met that have rejoined school and a few that haven’t have had various issues and difficulties. Homeschooling to avoid the trans nonsense would be avoiding one potential risk but depriving your dc of a great deal else.

It wouldn’t help. The community is rife with it and even more cloistered than school with the parents behaving like twitter nutters against anyone who doesn’t fall in line.

What @JeanBodel said.

Transition seems to have increased during lockdown, not reduced.

Ds went to his local comprehensive and he learned about this issue via his best friend's sibling, who has now transitioned. Tbh I think he sees transition as something that attracts children who have got a lot of problems. He has had a few himself so I can't imagine him ever deliberately misgendering anyone or trying to hurt them, but I think he also finds it quite odd.

It's not coming specifically from schools, it's coming from anywhere that teenagers gather together with an opportunity to socialise. You would have to socially isolate your child to avoid any exposure to trans ideas. Do you really want to do that?
The home ed community has its share of kids thinking they're trans too, it's not just schools that are experiencing this.

It’s not a thing at my dds school (state all girl). Not a mention. Heard on grapevine a parent is trying to get their son in as he feels like he is a girl - flat no from the school…

I don't think that sending them to a Christian school is the answer unless you have some faith or hope for some faith for your child.
We are a Christian family, sent our kids to a Christian school thinking we were doing the right thing.
My husband was on the board and soon discovered that it is not better than any other school.
They still have to follow the syllabus and if this teaching is essential to the curriculum than even Christian teachers will teach it.
Therefore being totally hypocritical to their own faith which then impacts a child by them thinking they don't even practice what they preach, what's the point of faith?
Very damaging and hard for a child to work out.
We need to not rely on schools to teach anymore.
I'm a homeschooler now and have been for the last two years.
Best thing we've done for our family.

Not much would convince me to home school after lockdown! If it's at all reassuring to you OP, I get the impression that kids take it all with a pinch of salt - certainly mine do (pre teen and mid teen at state schools).
I'd imagine having trans teenagers in your family will lead to these discussions sooner rather than later in your household.

I wish I was kidding. A photo of one of these "cats" has been doing the rounds on Facebook and WhatsApp. They look absolutely terrifying. I hope I never bump into them with my kids as I think they would genuinely be scared.

The school doesn't seem to be doing anything about it, apart from expelling other pupils for barking at them.

I think I just need to laugh because if I don't then I'll cry!

I have a primary age granddaughter who I worry about. Her mother is very opposed to all the gender ID ideology bollox but does need to work full time. The school is not overly-affected (so far) but I can see it heading that way. But secondary school is where it really kicks in, I think.

Obviously as a grandmother I am at remove, but I am already figuring out how I can help in home schooling if need be.

DS went to a CoE primary school and had none of the gender nonsense. We’ve since moved and DD is a year into a non-religious primary. They’ve already had the No Outsiders guy in without telling the parents first and are doing loads of be kind nonsense. If you can’t homeschool then religious school seems to be the way to go.

Funny how people seem to recognise that people of faith (church schools in particular) are the most likely to dismiss this nonsense as nonsense and hold to truth and morality... and yet in the same breath consider the very existence of Jesus to be unbelievable. Perhaps that's why we're in this mess in the first place. Who was it who said "He created them male and female" ... Oh that's right. Jesus.

We homeschool, not because of this issue specifically, but I'm glad my kid doesn't come into contact with trans issues. Homeschooling is hard work, and expensive in both time and money. Do it if you want to, and are able, but I would have to be motivated by more than just the trans agenda to make it work.

I don’t think schools are espousing these views particularly. I also still think they most students in main stream schools seem pretty resistant to it. The kids I see getting swept up in it are the ones who might have previously been caught up in alternative cultures but they seems to have got swept up in trans stuff. I’d be much much more worried about internet groups and what they are seeking out that what teachers or other students are saying. I think you are barking up the wrong tree

It's so important that kids only have access to echo chambers and don't listen to alternative views 🤔

Honestly. I am an atheist. I still think its important that they have religious education and embrace others points if views whatever mine is

Years ago, I knew quite a few children and teens who were home schooled. They always seemed to be more comfortable in their own skin, more confident, balanced, mature and happy than those who went to school. For most of human history people lived in small groups. Even before this current madness I came to believe that large schools are damaging to many.

The other advantage of home schooling, is that it takes about half the time each day to complete the materials. This leaves lots of time for children to pursue other interests such as nature, fitness, music, cooking, construction, household responsibilities, etc. I think home schooled kids, when they finally go to university or the working world, would be quite resilient against this nonsense.

It’s very odd that people are actively looking to religion/ religious schools to counteract this. Gods/religion is a belief system that defies science too. Many children go to C of E schools, because of the way schools in this country were set up, but most don’t end up believing in gods because of that.

Haven’t read the whole thread, but my kids are at a school with a v high Muslim population. We don’t have any of this nonsense, the parents wouldn’t stand for it. Don’t know if that might be an option for you OP

This is a really good point.

To reiterate what I said earlier, I think you really need to do some research on what your local school is like, don’t be afraid to ask questions and for copies of resources. If you are mainly satisfied then school is usually the best option for most children.

If you don’t like what you find at the local school or like the idea of homeschooling regardless, then research is then needed on what homeschooling involves - there’s a board on MN for it. If you decide to home school it needs to be because you think that your child will thrive down that route, not just because you’re running away from a school that might or might not teach genderwoo.

There is new dept of education guidance due soon plus the Cass Review will hopefully publish more this year. You may find things are better by the time you need to make a school application.

The thing about home education is that they'll get to 18, maybe go to uni, and suddenly be hit with it all. I think we need to teach them how to survive in a world gone mad, rather than try to take them out of that world (which I don't think is a viable long-term plan).