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Onlyfans - good or bad for feminism?

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JustGraduated · 25/01/2023 20:07

Hi all - I’m new here so not sure if this is the right topic for this forum. Sorry if it isn’t but would love to hear your opinions! Also sorry for how long this is!!!

I recently graduated from uni & one of my housemates (and best friends) had an onlyfans page. It was the cause of disagreement between her and our other housemate (and friend) who is a really strong feminist.

She is stunning and loved doing it, so regularly posted on it & did really well (like insane well). She made enough to cover tuition fees, rent, bills & a whole lot more beside. And don’t get me wrong she works hard on it.

Our other housemate was strongly against it. Saying that it was demeaning her as a female & that she should stop it if she respected herself.

The three of us all get on really well and besides a few little arguments between the two of them it never caused anything serious.

I just want to know what you guys think. Can you be a feminist and on Onlyfans? I often play with the idea of starting my own, especially when I look at my student loan debt and how well my friend did!

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Boiledbeetle · 25/01/2023 20:44

Take it from someone old enough to be your mother (God I want to weep at that comment...I was 25 once with pert tits too).

Please don't do this. You will lie awake at night in years to come tearing yourself up over it.

No amount of money is worth the degradation you will feel one day.

nepeta · 25/01/2023 20:44

It's not good as a concept that a feminist movement trying to find out what a fair society would look like would support. There are other types of feminist movements which would argue differently, but I disagree with that.

Almost all sex-related work is done by a majority of female people and consumed almost entirely by male people, and this makes the sex work industries among those which require specific monitoring and analysing and critique. As things currently stand, pushing sex work as a form of female empowerment supports an unequal sex-based world.

This does not mean that the workers in it wouldn't need full protections and workers' rights. But it does mean looking at who it is who is really making the profits from that industry, why sex trafficking of women seems to be linked with that industry etc.

MummyJasmin · 25/01/2023 20:43

Yupthatsright · 25/01/2023 20:25

Somehow women have convinced themselves since they are earning money,degrading themselves is completely ok.
How sad that's where we are today.

This 💯

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 25/01/2023 20:42

She’s an idiot. Imagine in later professional life, up pops some guy who recognises you from Only Fans? I’m assuming that she’s heading for some sort of career, having been at university.

That aside, from a feminist point of view it is perpetuating the objectification of women. Besides validating all forms of sex work. Sex work is known to involve trafficking of women and girls and just about every form of abuse in the book. I wouldn’t want to do anything to support that, even if Only Fans pretends to be innocuous.

ChaToilLeam · 25/01/2023 20:41

Nothing empowering or feminist about being sexually degraded for money.

BlackRookInRainyWeather · 25/01/2023 20:41

Jeez, it’s the bright and breezy tone that depresses the most.

Boiledbeetle · 25/01/2023 20:40

I'll do it in emoji form so I don't get banned😶😕🙁🤐😡

Thelnebriati · 25/01/2023 20:39

Onlyfans is neither good nor bad for feminism, it doesn't have anything to do with feminism. A thing is not automatically feminist just because a woman is doing it.

Generally the feminist viewpoint on the sex industry is that it is bad for women as a class, and puts the individual women who participate at risk. It changes the way men think about women. We are not commodities to be purchased.
In the real world, many women don't actually have a choice. The benefits system no longer provides a safety net. Pay and employment opportunities are not equal between women and men. Women are often disadvantaged in the workplace once they start having children, and their careers rarely recover.
Feminists generally don't castigate other women for needing to earn money. We're pragmatic.

If you have the luxury of choice then inform yourself about what you are getting into. The majority of women don't make a fortune, the average earn an estimated $150. The demands made by your private clients will escalate.
Men will steal your image and your content, and distribute it for free, and the photos will be online for the rest of your life which can make it harder to leave the industry behind you if you change your mind.

HighWindows1 · 25/01/2023 20:38

My son goes to school with a boy whose mother is(was?) on OF, of course everyone knows and bullies him endlessly, my heart breaks for that poor poor boy.

JacquelinePot · 25/01/2023 20:37

When this question comes up I always think of Mark from Peep Show, when he gets dragged to the strip club:

"This is awful. This is exactly what men want and we shouldn't be allowed to have it." (or something like that).

AngryGoblin · 25/01/2023 20:34

Yupthatsright · 25/01/2023 20:25

Somehow women have convinced themselves since they are earning money,degrading themselves is completely ok.
How sad that's where we are today.

I agree. As a feminist I despise OF

CatchYouOnTheFlippetyFlop · 25/01/2023 20:33

It depends what kind of feminist you think are. If you think that sex work is work, which means you support all the trafficked and coerced women, as well as the miniscule minority who think of it as 'empowering', or if you find it empowering to become male wank fodder then you're looking at a different kind of feminism than me.

I do not agree with the sex industry as on the whole it is detrimental to women.

It is all about the objectification of women's bodies, which I am against. Regardless of the few that say they enjoy it.

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Yupthatsright · 25/01/2023 20:25

Somehow women have convinced themselves since they are earning money,degrading themselves is completely ok.
How sad that's where we are today.