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GC Feminists- what do you want to achieve?

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Faffertea · 25/01/2023 18:22

I posted this on the David Blunkett thread but since I watched the clip of him I have been mulling over what he said, and the then Labour government’s role of bringing in the GRA and it has lead me to really think about my own position and what I want the end point of this to be. It’s sort of crystallised into the following…

The thing that bothers me is that Labour brought in the GRA with no consideration for women. Wasn’t DB part of the upper echelons of Labour at the time?

I can’t help but feel that for all his welcome talk today DB was presumably happy enough with the original GRA not to resign over it so does he really mean ‘women’s equality above all else’ or does he mean ‘women’s equality above else except for the small number of men we (politicians) feel are ok to be included in women’s spaces’? Are we really just back to males can be women but only the right sort of males.

And I don’t know about anyone else but for me that is not acceptable. It has to be no males in female spaces. No exceptions. No ‘but these males are harmless’ or ‘these males have radically changed their bodies and are distressed by being males’ or ‘these males have paperwork that says they’re really female’ so they’re ok.

No one who is male, in any shape, form or identity in female spaces at all. For those males unhappy with that they need to find an alternative that doesn’t involve co-opting female spaces.

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ExiledElsie · 25/01/2023 18:31

Absolutely agree. The GRA needs to be repealed and laws to be based on reality. Nothing less, in my opinion.

FKATondelayo · 25/01/2023 18:31

No to self-ID in practice, not just in law and repeal the GRA. Removal of all uses of 'gender' in policy / law. EA to be amended so provisioners MUST provide single sex services in specific instances (prisons, refuges, toilets, sports, hospital wards, care homes) not just be allowed to.

People can identify however they want and live their private lives in peace.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 25/01/2023 18:31

What was in the sex discrimination act that was different to the EA? To use The Script "I am not expecting you to do the emotional labour of educating me", is there something to read? That sounds interesting and I don't know bout it.

WomensLandArmy · 25/01/2023 18:28

It's surely a womanifesto?

EndlessTea · 25/01/2023 18:27

I think we should repeal the GRA, get rid of the Equality Act and bring back the Sex Discrimination Act and the other laws that were conflated into it.

I think that Press For Change were dodgy and Sarah Brown and others pushing for The Equality Act were dodgy. Labour have a lot to answer for there.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 25/01/2023 18:23

If that is your manifesto you can have my vote.

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