GC Feminists- what do you want to achieve?

Amend the 2010 Equality Act to remove 'gender reassignment'. WTF is it even doing in there? Imagine mandating non-discrimination for any other nebulous process - "I am getting my hair done so won't be coming to work. You can't sack me". Ridiculous.

Well, the EA2010 is of course listing things that are supposed to be trivial. That's the point. You shouldn't be treating people badly because of things that shouldn't matter. If religion can be in there, then in principle no problem with "gender identity" (or indeed star sign).

The main issue is locking down the comparator, which eliminating the GRA would do. You shouldn't be treating a man who thinks of himself as a woman any worse than any other man.

It does need to be made symmetrical though. At the minute gender people can get special privileges because you can't discriminate against people for believing in their opposite-sex-identity, but you can discriminate against people for not believing they have an opposite-sex-identity.

(Whereas I believe it's symmetrical for religion - atheists get the same protection as believers).

Having that symmetry would have potentially cut short some of the intrusion into female spaces sooner - men in general could have claimed discrimination for not being allowed into female spaces/sports/whatever - lack of ladybrain should not be an impairment to getting the same rights other males are getting. Could have driven us to the ridiculous "stop this!" point sooner.

This, pretty much. If gender identity is a concept some who believe in it desire, then they should create new terms for various identities, not demand that everyone in the whole world suddenly agrees that 'woman' means all sorts of sexist stereotypes and that there is now no word allowed to describe people who are female.

Leave our words and our spaces and our sports and our scholarships alone, in other words. Create your own system if you think you need one, don't steal all the hard-won rights from feminism and so on.

I was reading as I scrolled and got to this and was trying to work out why you wanted to abolish Wimbledon.

I must learn to scroll. Stop. Then read.

But totally agree Abolish the GRA or rather...

REPEAL THE GRA 2004

I want at least everything females had prior to 2014 (and the equality act modified to clarify this)
Single (biological) sex spaces
Single (biological) sex choice of care
Recording of crimes/statistics according to (biological) sex
The word woman to mean adult human female
To not have people be able to change their sex legally and cause confusion/legal loopholes
For trans people to fight for their rights that enhance the equality act without diminishing other protected characteristics.

And JKR to be first minister of Scotland or PM of UK whichever she fancies.

Not difficult. Self-contained single-user spaces can be open to both sexes, since they're intended for one user at a time. If a small business has two separate single-user toilets, it should be fine for these to be unisex as well, so you don't have a line of 6 women while every man just breezes in and out. Easy enough to make distinction between these and unisex multi-user areas with cabins opening out into one room.

for all his welcome talk today DB was presumably happy enough with the original GRA not to resign over it so does he really mean ‘women’s equality above all else’ or does he mean ‘women’s equality above else except for the small number of men we (politicians) feel are ok to be included in women’s spaces’?

It's a good distinction to make and not a bad question in general. The proponents of laws and changes that got us here shouldn't just be able to bat that away and pretend they had no role to play and no responsibility. But it is better they consider and step away now than that they never do and carry on with 'gender'-based policies. The best time for DB to realise this would have been before the original GRA. The second best time would have been sometime in the interval. The third best time is now.

This and stop allowing 'gender identity ideology' in schools. It is not the same as Section 28 in the 1980s.

Abolish the GRA.

Amend the 2010 Equality Act to remove 'gender reassignment'. WTF is it even doing in there? Imagine mandating non-discrimination for any other nebulous process - "I am getting my hair done so won't be coming to work. You can't sack me". Ridiculous.

I would not go beyond 'legitimate' and 'proportionate' to protect single sex spaces though, or we are in danger of allowing direct discrimination against woman back in (single sex golf clubs or member-only clubs where the sort of discussions around the GRA would have occurred in the first place).

I’d also like to see some of the ‘old school transsexuals’ who claim they have ‘always been using women’s spaces, unnoticed’, be held to account and made to answer what led them to be so entitled that they transgressed women’s boundaries in the first place. And to be told in no uncertain terms that behaviour defines them as liberty-taking misogynists.

This

And genderwoo out of schools.

Repeal the GRA.
Push back on the whole idea of Gender Identity, stop giving it any official status. What goes on in someone else's head is their own business, it should not affect my life.

@FKATondelayo, @Blube, @LavenderHillMob
Yes!

I want the world to accept the fact that humans come in two flavours, female and male. You don't get to choose an extra scoop of tits on a man and call that flavour female as well.

MEN CAN'T BE WOMEN AND WOMEN CAN'T BE MEN. NO DEBATE

MEN DON'T BELONG IN FEMALE ONLY SPACES. NO DEBATE

Repeal the GRA

Women are not factory seconds or men gone wrong. Acknowledge female anatomy. Make it a legal requirement that any protective clothing and safety equipment has to be designed to fit female bodies.

Prosecute violent criminals.

Improve street safety.

Stop violent men having access to children just because they impregnated a woman.

Oh and ban surrogacy.

Probably more, but the dogs are hungry.

I’d like biological women to have ownership of the word ‘woman’ and not be told by men who is and who isn’t a woman, in the same way as the black community isn’t told by white people who is and who isn’t black.

I’d like it to be clear that the words woman and female in legislation refer to the female sex and do not include men identifying as women.

I’d like all single sex spaces, sports, and job positions reserved for women to be protected from the men trying to exploit them.

I’d like the GRA repealed as a nonsense.

I’d like it to be a criminal offence to teach lies to children in a school, specifically the lie that it is possible for humans to become the opposite sex, and the lie that more than two sexes exist.

I’d like an end to taxpayer-funding of non-essential ideology-led medical interventions such as so called ‘puberty blockers’ and sex change surgeries.

I want an official list of where sex matters; prisons, sports, hospital, toilets etc and for it to be law that there is no compromise for anyone. An absolute retraction of any change to sex on official documents. My idea of being accommodating to transpeople is that anyone can opt to have a special individual code on their documents so that their sex is not revealed when it's not important but NHS, employers, police etc. could check the code to discover genuine sex when it is necessary.

Shrier fgs (autocorrect )

sorry to be a pedant

Caroline Craido Perez wrote Invisible Women.
Abigail Shriner wrote Irreversible Damage

For me, upholding the single sex exemptions is just the start. There's a flipping mountain to climb from maternity and menopause services to rape convictions and the CSA growing a spine.

That's before we consider the "default" everyday sexism that Abigail Shriver nails in her book "Invisible Women."

I feel I'm being pedantic but there has to be exceptions for small businesses that may only have room for one bog or changing room.

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agree with you all, is there a petition anywhere for this ?

I'd like Labour to create policies along with the 'radical notion' definition of feminism: simply that they recognise women as actual people and not any kind of misogynistic construct.
That needs to be the basis of everything.

There is no longer any compromise I am willing to accept.

Men are no type of woman or female.

Yup. In a nutshell.