GC Feminists- what do you want to achieve?

I would like gender identity to be given an equal footing with religions, rather than things that are objectively true, like age and sex. Yes, self ID for a GRC, but the GRC doesn't confer rights from the opposite sex, it does protect people from discrimination (but compared to their birth sex). This can cover all the different strands, nb, queer etc. it will also allow us to have proper conversations about their needs (prison wing, health care etc)

I'd like to see honesty and accountability for medical interventions, no more twee language. Patients can't be considered to have full informed consent if they think having boobs stuck on or taken off is going to confer a magic disguising trick where you look like a sexy or macho version of the opposite sex. They have only properly consented if they recognise the side effects and limitations of the procedures.

I'd like us to always make people use of the term "gender identity" rather than taking gender, which can be found in lots of policies and is a loophole way in. Gender goes back to meaning perceived sex.

I'd like people to be able to explore their gender identities, play around with clothes and have safe places to meet like minded people. But, like a church, I can choose to live my life without going in or having to use religious language. Live and let live.

Please, if you haven’t yet done so, consider signing this petition to update the Equality Act to make clear the protected characteristic ‘sex ‘ is biological,

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

Yes,education not indoctrination.

I've been reflecting over the last couple of days. What I want most is for women to look at how far we've come in battling back, and keep going.

I can't remember when I first became fully aware of all this, but I do remember being in an FWR thread where posters were resigned to self-ID becoming law in the UK, Jenni Murray's lecture theatre having to be renamed, and FWR itself potentially taken down.

We have power. And once we've clawed back what should never have been taken we could move fucking MOUNTAINS - if we remember.

I have never believed these stories. I think they are trying to persuade women that they are harmless by inventing them. We are supposed to forget the threats, the bullying, the ludicrous demands which give then more rights than anybody else including the right to put sex offenders among women.

We must have a name for people who belong to the sex which typically (but not always) produces large gametes. Without such a name we can't interpret data or analyse the reasons for sex-selective abortions, FGM, the gender gap in earnings (which is mostly a sex gap), why most victims of sexual trafficking have female genitals and so on. We can't even politically mobilise around the issues which affect our sex class.

Not having that name really does count as an ultimate patriarchal move.

The trans activists should have lobbied for a second set of names for gender identities so that those who believe in the concept could use them. They chose not to do that, but to appropriate 'woman' and 'girl' and now even 'female' from the established usage where those refer to biological sex.

All of the necessary stuff above, PLUS

Get rid of Queer Theory courses in universities, and replace them with mandatory (second wave Feminist) Women's Studies..

And genderwoo out of schools.

^^This is what I want most of all.

That and if I had a magic wand no more talking about 1% of the populations personal private feelings 99% of the time

Repeal the GRA, our politicians have proved they cannot be trusted to protect women's rights.

No males in women's spaces or sports under any circumstances.

No gender ideology being taught as fact in schools.

Mental health support for gender distressed/confused children instead of potentially irreversible medical intervention.

A return to accepting the truth is not hateful and should not be unsayable.

Perfectly put.

Repeal the GRA.

Get this nonsense out of schools.

Sums it up brilliantly.

mine too

It's often so damn obvious even from words on a screen that someone is male or female.

You reckon? How?

I agree with everthing PPs have said about no male persons whatsoever in womens' spaces, sport, prizes, everything .
But a thing that concerns me greatly is the ability to change your birth certificate, an important historical document as well as a personal one. Your original birth certificate is erased.

This has ramifications beyond someone's own feelings and makes a lie out of biological fact.

To establish the only material difference between the sexes is our sexed body and the implications of that. There is nothing else between us, not our intelligence, abilities, competencies, not our wants or needs or possibilities.

I don't think we CAN dismiss gender, in the sense of the effect of our bodies on our life experience. It's often so damn obvious even from words on a screen that someone is male or female. It permeates so much of our behaviour beyond the bought-in trappings. (Maybe you were including that under 'implications', though.)

Excellently put.

The same thing every thinking feminist from the beginning of time wants, to destroy the concept gender, to burn it to ashes. To establish the only material difference between the sexes is our sexed body and the implications of that. There is nothing else between us, not our intelligence, abilities, competencies, not our wants or needs or possibilities. Telling me, a woman is a look or a feeling or behaviour, is utterly insulting.

I want preservation of same sex spaces.
Repeal the GRA.
I want women defined in uk law as adult human female.
I want it recognised in law that sex is immutable and important in law.

I ultimately want to end sex based violence, the Nordic model, and to create a society where people living in poverty isn't a vital part of the overall equation.

I don't think I have a gender, so should not be a default of that at all. There is no need for these documents to choose a very small sample of potential identity factors and start stating them.

This. No more gender nonsense

I'd like to see the use of the word 'gender' abolished except in grammatical discussions. Actual human beings have sexes which they cannot change, but which do not in any way dictate what they wear, what they do, who they marry/shag.

Gender does not exist. I'd like politicians to stop wasting money and wrecking lives pretending that it does.

I know that isn't going to happen, but the question was what do I want.

If we could have all that, and it was made clear that the Equality Act refers to biological sex, then I think it would no longer bother me if someone gets a piece of paper to recognise their new "gender", because we'd be in the state we should always have been in, where someone's gender is no business of the law. The law shouldn't be concerned with stuff in someone's head that's unverifiable.
It doesn't bother me too much if we keep the EA's "gender reassignment", because it could be seen as just a kind of religion, and seen as part of a generic "don't discriminate against people for stuff you disapprove of but that is irrelevant", which I think is good to have.

100%.

Couldn't give a fuck what anyone's 'gender' is, nor their star sign, nor their religion.

if it bothers trans people to have the disfavoured sex on passports and driving licences

Have an additional box - Trans Identifying Female (transman) or Trans Identifying Male (transwoman) and the rest of us just leave it blank. No GRC necessary, no alterations to Birth Certificates, the sex marker remains unchanged.