Mark Hamill is a “transphobe” for liking JK’s tweet

Not RTFT, but to be fair, JK herself had a few wobbles before jumping in full force. It's scary. He seems like a nice bloke. Give him time

@HedgeWench that's brilliant

What does "living as a woman" look like? Genuine question. Try and avoid the use of stereotypes or "changing your name on your electricity bill".

Define how one lives as a woman? I'll wait.

Males commit 98% of sexual and violent crime.

Women can't tell which ones are 'genuine' trans, and which are just men out to harm women.

Hence why sex based spaces exist.

It's not a difficult concept to understand.

Single sex spaces, as women fought for.

1 space for women/vaginas.

A separate space for men/penises.

A third space for those who choose to mix or are not bothered.

But obviously the majority of women want single sex spaces.

Women aren’t going anywhere, either.

Women wanting single-sex spaces definitely aren’t going anywhere. And there are a lot of us. A lot. And we’re ever-increasing in numbers.

Sticking to spaces that matches their biological sex.

If transwomen don't feel safe in those spaces i.e that men will attack them for not confirming to gender stereotypes (wearing dresses maybe?) then -

Set up a third space
Campaign for males to be more understanding and tolerant.

This is not a problem for women to solve for them.

Transwomen don’t have to go away, Bagel, I’d just like TRAs to stop threatening to beat and murder women.

doesn’t seem a big ask.

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Oh @MargaritaPie I'm never going to tire of asking you to answer this question (as I'm genuinely interested to hear your answer). I know you always ignore this every time I ask but I'll try again...One sentence reply is fine, try to avoid the use of stereotypes...

Please how you define "living as a woman"? How does one live as a woman and prove this to others?

It's not a game.

Rape and murder and domestic violence aren't funny.

And males should not be in any single sex female spaces.

It's water running down a plug hole, really. Transwomen aren't going anywhere.

What would it take for you to win?

A law preventing transwomen from entering female toilets? Full criminal record searches on all transwomen prior to joining female clubs or societies? Full ban on transwomen using female changing rooms?

What does winning look like?

Keep going Marg- bring ALL your examples of death threats and calls for violence.

The posters here will bring examples of threats by TRAs.

it’ll be a bit like the old Duracell Bunny battery advert.

There are gender disparities in crime. There are ethnic disparities in crime. There are socio economic disparities in crime. There are geographical disparities in crime.

Here trans women are guilty until proven innocent. Much more likely to be evil criminals so curb their rights asap before such horrors occur.

Wrong on so many levels. Mainly on just a basic human level.

According to India and "her" ilk, a "woman" is feminine, pink-pastel-loving, skirt wearing etc etc low spoken deliberately demure gentle people? Waers lipstick? Has boobies they like to wearlow cut tops for? I mean....what. Is. A. Woman to them?...

With all these things, it comes down to not misidentifying the individual case as the rule. If a trans person murders someone, that’s on them, not the community. If the Brits nominate only people with penises, that’s on the Brits.

The whole area is way too nuanced to be 'trans women who still have their male genitalia are destroying the rights of women'. Vast swathes understand the concerns and want women to feel supported. The people that wave placards and send death threats are the individual cases, not the rule.

Statistically, you can stack your shit up on both sides. The individual cases are not the rule. They're sound bites.

Oh, yes - "Katy" Montgomerie or whatever the name is. Literally every hour on twitter raging their misogyny and homophobia. Of course, THEY don't get cancelled for their various phobias because meh, no one cares about homophobia or hatred of women. Very sad, sad deluded people indeed.

At least @MargaritaPie retains the same name along with the nonsense they spout. Consistent at least!

Reading this report now. Some comments, not necessarily narrowly focused on the topics of this thread:

-As misogyny is not even listed among possible types of hate which would be recorded, we have no idea what might have happened to hate crimes against female people over time. No idea at all.

-Most perpetrators (or alleged perpetrators) of hate crime (all of it, not just trans hate crime) in the report (when identifiable) are said to be male, however, so probably not feminists.

-Most victims (or alleged victims) are also said to be male with the exception of the transgender group where more than half of the victims are said to be female.

This is a clear example of the definitions of 'female' and 'male' probably having become mere abstract inner feelings as the odds are pretty good that the female group of victims in the trans hate category consists of trans women. When misogyny data is not collected or recorded at all, it's not surprising that the victims of hate crime tilt towards the male sex.

-The proportion of reported hate crime incidents which happened in the cyberspace varies by type of hate category:
It is 18% for disability, 7% for race, 10% for religion, 13% for sexual orientation, and 27% for transgender identity. So much larger for the last group.

-The total number of recorded hate crime incidents (alleged ones, I think) in the transgender category is 113 in 2020-21. The total number of sexual orientation hate crimes (alleged ones, I think) in 2020-21 is 1675, the total number of race hate crimes is 4303 and so on. It would be interesting to relate these to the sizes of the relevant populations.

Yes, this.

Not sure if people name-change, but the TRAs never stick around for long, because they’re never able to make a cogent point.

I guess it gets boring for them.

Are they fuck.

Conveniently ignoring the dozens of news reports every month about sex offending, flashing, rapist transwomen.

The links to sexual degeneracy / transwomen are astoundingly obvious, more so every day.

Or are we to turn a blind eye to all of these.

The fact is, transwomen are biological men. Women should not have their safe spaces throw open to biological men even if they're wearing a dress and make up.

@MargaritaPie aka chief MN TRA, does this frequently, pops up with whataboutery and nonsense yet refuses to address valid points, and I love it that he does. Just like India Willoughby, the more they post, the more they shine light on this absurd situation women find themselves in. It's like a continuous own goal.

I wouldn't waste too much time engaging though as there's only so many minutes in the day you can dedicate to stupid.

Sorry, my bad.
Interesting demonstration, though, that a woman with mild prosopagnosia can still identify that a male is not a woman, even when she cannot accurately recognise individuals.

And my point still stands, that it must be galling for a male person to try to be a woman but know that they will never, ever achieve their wish.

It's not cherry picking if it's an example of a common occurance. That's not what cherry picking is.
Violent threats from trans activists are common and happen online daily. It's not cherry picking to bring up examples of something that happens regularly and repeatedly.
The Lily Cade example that you keep bringing up happened in 2017 - almost six years ago- and there is no evidence that she even considers herself GC. That is cherry picking.