Women's rights general conversations - Thread 3

Bolloxology elsewhere on the internet today strengthens my resolve to call women, women (and men, men) particularly, but not exclusively, in medical situations. This nonsense could kill people.

If being a woman just means having feminine feelings inside the head, then obviously ovarian cancer can't be directly related to that! Indeed, no health conditions can, unless there are mental disorders relating to beliefs in femininity.

In the gender identity theology 'woman ' is not a material thing at all, so ovarian cancer just happens mostly to women for reasons having nothing to do with identifying as one. Indeed, we can no longer understand that correlation at all!

It's odd that genderists don't realise how the identity concept 'woman' vanishes if we pretend that the gender rules and roles are not developed for the two sexes (with negative consequences for women in most societies). Why would we ask in official forms how feminine or masculine someone feels? What need is there for that information at all?

Their whole edifice depends crucially on most people just seeing their gender as their sex so that a small minority can define their identities against that background. A parasitic relationship between definitions.

They could at the very least least say “ ovarian cancer can affect all humans with female bodies”.

Well, yeah, but isn't even that conceding too much?

Give 'em an inch...

While most people who get ovarian cancer are women, it can affect anyone with ovaries, including trans men, non-binary people and intersex people who have ovaries.'

It is physical, biological bodies that are affected not social ‘gendered’ states. Transmen and people with DSDs who have ovaries are females, and are girls and women.

They could at the very least least say “ ovarian cancer can affect all humans with female bodies”.

Well I'm relieved to hear that most people who get it are women rather than all. My odds just dropped!

This is probably a good thread to post this, about the Vagina Museum:

www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11816341/Vagina-Museum-sparks-outrage-woke-gender-neutral-crash-course-ovarian-cancer.html

Vagina Museum sparks outrage with woke gender-neutral 'crash course' on ovarian cancer - which states 'most people' who get disease are women

Surely this sort of museum should be educating people, of both sexes? I don't know of a single male human, who's had ovarian cancer, in the 400,000 years that modern humans have been here.

Probably more #BeCool than #BeKind.

"I'm unprejudiced and inclusive and modern, me. I tick all the boxes."

Of course, it doesn't stand up to a moment's examination...

I can understand that in some contexts, but how can you volunteer other women for actual physical harm and exclusion on those pretexts? Surely there's a limit?

I just can't understand how women are so involved in pushing this stuff. You would imagine they would be fully aware of the difference in strength and physical power between men and women. I can understand how men might not be, but women? How can they not see it? Why are they so careless about women's welfare?

And why are so many elected people using their time to push this stuff? Like that councillor Danny whatever their name is, do they honestly think that people vote for them and pay them for this?

Welsh ministers wrote to the Welsh Rugby Union expressing "concern" about its ban on transgender women competing in female-only games. Their letter stated "inclusion" should be the "starting point" for decisions on transgender people's participation in any part of society.

Blithering idiots, for a start, it's not inclusive, because it automatically excludes a woman or a girl from the team. Second, the inevitable injuries inflicted on the female players will further exclude them.

These politicians should be required to sit through a presentation explaining exactly why transw shouldn't be competing in women's rugby and if they still insist that they should, God help us.

Yet again very, very stupid women throwing other women into harms way.

Rugby is notoriously unsafe, as it is. And surely they know by now that slightly lowered testosterone will not remove the differences between men and women.

This is an absolute disgrace. Welsh ministers lobbying the Welsh Rugby Union not to follow WRU's evidence-based policy on transwomen in women's rugby. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-64825491

Also the ridiculous gotcha of "why is the policy different for transmen and transwomen?" Just how thick are these (sadly, female) politicians?

I've been participating in that one. The school are utter shits.

That's really shit, I've been following that.

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Defamation is civil law, not criminal. Nowt to do with the police.

The courts won’t allow a defamation case unless the person or org defamed can prove that the statements made were untrue (and known to be untrue by the person who made them) and that the person or org has been seriously harmed by resulting reputational damage.

Who ever is making threats is billybullshitting:

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2013/26

That's appalling. That said, while I'm sure they could call the police in for "defamation" I'm really not sure what the police could do seeing that there's nothing defaming about any of it. I doubt it would go anywhere but it's disgusting that they're threatening her. Her problem was never with the school but the stupid bloody posters.

Oh crikey that’s awful! Last time I looked at that thread it seemed like things were moving in a positive direction.

Have people on here realised that Vebrithien, who persuaded her daughter’s primary school to remove No Outsiders posters because it has ‘gender’ in place of sex, has now been turned on and threatened by the school for having started a What’s App Group bringing the whole matter to the group’s attention. It is very unpleasant. They say she has broken some school code; and seem to have threatened they could call the police for defamation.

The twitter address atDaysGoByGoBy belongs to a detrans female (apparently moderates the Detrans sub-editor.

Found one: pbs.twimg.com/media/FYiG3M-XoAAs4N2?format=png&name=900x900

@Waitwhat23, it would be great to see a clearer image. Any idea where it came from?

This is useful regarding DSD's