Women's rights general conversations - Thread 3

Brilliant.

That JKR hair is amazing. My arms are tired just looking at it, I can barely manage a ponytail.

@Winterborne74 - I couldn't agree more on the issue of rejecting oppressive gender norms. That strikes me as much healthier for children's minds and bodies than the idea of forcing unequipped bodies to fit with those norms.

Mental health support for young people is in crisis. I don’t think the GLP is helping matters at all, but the state is often failing these children, and we should care about these children and seek to reduce their pain.

How do we get better at reconciling children to their bodies and the changes they go through? Refusing treatment through rationing and underfunding services relative to demand is very cruel. We need to reduce demand too and that means equipping children with much better understanding of their bodies, supporting their mental health and physical activity levels as well as giving them the tools to analyse and reject oppressive gender norms. All of which takes time and money. I hope the new clinics lead to better outcomes and support and less transition.

The first thing I thought was, hip replacements! 😀

They lost -

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64288386.amp

Particularly interesting is the push for unspecified 'treatment' for two children, under the age of 16.

I wondered why somebody's chosen gender expression ought to take priority over somebody else's knee/hip/shoulder replacement surgery.

They lost, I believe. Unsurprisingly - if you could sue the NHS for long waiting times everyone would be doing it.

Will be interesting to hear the outcome of this case.
www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/29/nhs-england-waiting-times-gender-dysphoria-patients-unlawful-court-hears-trans-claimants-nhse

The things she does with her hair are amazing aren't they - true art, and so inventive.

I've seen that woman and her amazing hair before, but this is really something special. She's even made a good likeness of JKR, with her hair.

It's clear that this whole thing is the product of silly children egged on by silly misogynist men. In an age that worships youth and men, of course they managed to captivate the world. Until ye olde scolds came along to ruin it.

There's also this, which I found in the replies to the twitter thread I linked above on the Gender Diverse in Canadian prisons. I don't know the source, it could be completely made up.

Wasn't sure where to put this so thought I'd pop it here...

twitter.com/laetiky/status/1620087541595766784

I start to lose the will to live every time I hear another pronouncement from here.

• Male rapists in female prisons

• 13 year olds who want to transition "should be taken seriously"

• Reversing Brexit would be a fantasy.

The hits just keep on coming. .. 🙄

The awful Guido Fawkes seems to have recently dusted down an old quote of Lisa Nandy's, but, to be fair, I don't think she's changed her position since.

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=order-order.com/2023/01/27/lisa-nandy-backed-male-rapists-in-womens-prisons/&ved=2ahUKEwi2l8KHzO_8AhXHQkEAHYwKCooQxfQBKAB6BAgFEAI&usg=AOvVaw0rhbFwjwGNr5zjUzRY_vds

Can't they see how bloody stupid they look! But they told her right!

Have we had this one yet? Almost spat my tea out when I first saw it.

That Julie Bindel interview is amazing.

Nicola Sturgeon IS a disgrace to women.

As is Lisa Nandy of the Labour party has anyone managed to get her comments on rapists in women's prisons in the last week?

it strengthens the reason for the motivation behind prison onset gender dsyphoria

I've had a look at the Canadian Correctional thing I linked up thread. Like so many things in the Canadian justice system indigenous people are over represented, 47% of gender diverse. I know in this country 'looked after' children are over represented as identifying as trans. Perhaps if indigenous children are more likely to be from troubled families, abused or in care, that might be driving some of it. Clearly, I'm guessing.

Also, two bits that stood out. Don't know why the first is bigly.

What I'm taking from them is tw are very likely to have committed serious sexual offences against women or children. Some of the crimes resulted in the death of the victim.

There's a strong possibility that some of these tw have been moved to a women's prison.

They probably committed their offences when they were identifying as men.

No information as to how soon after being arrested that they discovered they were trans.

Canada is insane.

The report found that the authorities who decided to grant the man custody "over-relied" on old information which led them to believe that he posed a “relatively low risk to young girls”.

FFS.relatively low risk! That worked out well didn't it. Any risk and she shouldn't have been placed with him. Poor girl.

Hmmm...

Here's a good example about why "risk assessments" are not (always) worth the paper they are written on. That poor girl:

https://twitter.com/stilltish/status/1619597737913204737?s=46&t=9__CcM41TnYt0tBqLGP-3A

well well well, Someone has been on a reporting binge on another thread . Someone is a hypocrite. Can't even remember what my first post this morning said but some of ones from yesterday are now gone. 🤔wonder who it could have been