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Question about trans women cycles

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Borris · 23/01/2023 20:34

I have a genuine question

I have a new ish work colleague who I get on well with and enjoy her company. She's a lesbian. Except that her girlfriend is a trans women. That's fine. I'm happy to refer to her by her chosen name and pronouns.

But what confused me is my friend saying more than once that their cycles had synched up and so they had one week a month when they were both super emotional.

Can this be a thing? Do trans women take different hormones at different times of the month? Genuine question, not being goady

Obviously only asking out of sheer nosiness. The first time she mentioned their cycles I didn't know that the partner was a trans woman and so now feel it's too late to ask!

OP posts:
OneMorePlant · 24/01/2023 04:40

Men do not have periods or menstrual cycles. They are men.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 24/01/2023 01:02

I thought you were talking about bicycles
Me too!

I was reminded of a recurring sketch in the vintage series Alexei Sayle's Stuff, where they opened an all-woman bicycle repair shop called 'Menstrual Cycles' "Because weeeeee're les-biaaaaaans!"

Boiledbeetle · 24/01/2023 00:49

Whyjustwhy123 · 23/01/2023 23:27

Anyone else now want to know about trans womens bikes? I just assumed you were going to ask if in cycle races they have different seats to.

Now I've obviously gotten to used to all this crap because I couldn't work out why posters kept mentioning bicycles! It was obviously going to be about periods!!I

I'm in too deep.

Help me

Whyjustwhy123 · 23/01/2023 23:27

Anyone else now want to know about trans womens bikes? I just assumed you were going to ask if in cycle races they have different seats to.

YourWinter · 23/01/2023 23:26

Sounds like they deserve each other. Barmy!

MeanCanadianLady · 23/01/2023 23:19

In this chart which is my current cycle I actually had a HUGE mood swing when I ovulated for a few days because I cut back on breastfeeding. You can see why as my temperature spiked a lot. I know that my luteal phase is almost always 10-11 days long so I told my husband to make sure we’ve got tampons and chocolate ready for Jan 28th. lol

Question about trans women cycles
MeanCanadianLady · 23/01/2023 23:16

There is no cycle. Only women with a uterus, ovaries and a cervix can experience a menstrual cycle. We have four stages actually. Follicular, ovulation, luteal and menstrual.

Our ovaries produce a great deal of these hormones. Other parts of the body such as the adrenal glands also produce these but think of the ovaries as holding the reigns calling the shots! None of this happens without these two organs.

In the follicular phase we have just finished our last period. Our body is gradually increasing estrogen and FSH to grow an egg follicle. The estrogen gives us energy and slowly raises our sex drive, then we ovulate causing a burst of testosterone! Yes women produce this too.

Actually did you know that ovulation is the only time women produce this hormone? If you are taking hormonal birth control then you never produce this (assuming the birth control is doing its job correctly) and you completely miss out on it. There are actually growing theories that this is why many women on hormonal birth control experience depression, low sex drive and fatigue.

Ovulation is the shortest stage. The egg is typically only available for 24-48 hours tops but the boost in hormones last for quite awhile as this tells the body “GET READY TO MAKE A BABY! GO GO GO!” and your body begins to produce a lot of progesterone telling your uterus to make a nice comfy thick lining of blood if that baby sticks they have a nice soft lining full of nutrients to make its home. After about a week and a half roughly depending on the lady the uterus will take no that no baby is happening and your progesterone will take a nose dive. This nose dive in your hormones is what causes PMS and moodiness.

So unless your friend’s trans lady is getting a very sophisticated and personalized round of hormones I highly doubt they are feeling anything like this. Typically they are just taking a flat dose of estrogen and completely missing out on these other complicated factors. They are certainly not experiencing cramps. That requires a uterus.

Did you know you can actually watch your cycle happen before you witness the symptoms? I do something called natural family planning and I can know 24 hours before a mood swing hits and predict my periods before they happen!

Here I’m happy to over share. 😂😂😂 I take my basal body temperature every morning with a special thermometer. When my estrogen is high my temp is low because estrogen lowers your body temp at night! When progesterone is high your body temp spikes. This usually happens around ovulation. As you can see the counting temps with numbers gain after I ovulate.

I usually experience what my husband calls “mini PMS” when I ovulate. I also have ovulation pain for about 12 hours.

Question about trans women cycles
N00bz · 23/01/2023 22:23

Incidentally, OP, if your colleague’s conversation is making you feel uncomfortable, you should tell her.

Don't become an unwilling, albeit distant, audience for this man’s role play.

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 22:10

Borris · 23/01/2023 21:36

I knew there couldn't be an actual period. I think the partners still has a penis as waiting for surgery so clearly no vagina or uterus. But I wondered if the hormones taken varied to make a fake cycle

Your lesbian colleague does realise her girlfriend could still get her pregnant. Doesn't she?

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 22:08

But you still can't misgender India W that thread is a mass of deletions!

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 22:07

CandlelightGlow · 23/01/2023 21:55

Is misgendering someone no longer against MN talk guidelines?

I think at the point a sign saying decapitate Terfs was shown alongside members of parliament mumsnet realised all bets are off we are done with be hind. Men are not and never can be women. No debate.

VerveClique · 23/01/2023 22:01

Can you really mis-gender the apparent partner of an apparent colleague of an anonymous poster on an internet forum?

Blister · 23/01/2023 22:00

I don't think you are allowed to misgender but you can correctly sex someone. The male individual of this story,if he actually exists, is male.

FOTTFSOFTFOASM · 23/01/2023 21:59

CandlelightGlow · 23/01/2023 21:55

Is misgendering someone no longer against MN talk guidelines?

What - 'man with a penis' who's shagging a woman claims that he has a menstrual cycle? The only person doing any misgendering here is the man who's claiming to be a woman, based on some weird (male) notion of what a woman actually is.

TheShellBeach · 23/01/2023 21:57

CandlelightGlow · 23/01/2023 21:55

Is misgendering someone no longer against MN talk guidelines?

Let's hope that sense has finally prevailed.

trucklebrunch · 23/01/2023 21:57

You colleague is bonkers

CandlelightGlow · 23/01/2023 21:55

Is misgendering someone no longer against MN talk guidelines?

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 21:49

Clarified although I have classified them as well but that's a different story

TheShellBeach · 23/01/2023 21:49

N00bz · 23/01/2023 21:02

He’s pretending to have period symptoms while he role plays womanhood.

Exactly.
Makes me furious.

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 21:49

Blister · 23/01/2023 21:43

On what planet do colleagues clarify their partners genital status and periods? Truly being special is a key to an alternate universe.

Oh I have classified the genital status of many of my work colleagues over the years.

They all had penises.

And a few of them have had reason to be concerned over the status of my periods and needed clarification from me that all is well!

😏

mumda · 23/01/2023 21:47

Borris · 23/01/2023 20:53

She does have terrible period pains, think heat pads up her jumper while at her desk. This is how the synching up comments started.

She should seek medical attention. Excessive pain should not be tolerated as a woman thing.

Cycles. Haha. Reactive to someone else's moods isn't good.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 23/01/2023 21:46

If you browse AIBU, you will find any number of threads of women saying that whenever they're ill their male partner is iller.

If she has a headache, he has a migrane; if she has a cold, he has flu; if she has a sprained ankle, he has a broken one; if she has period pains, ...

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 21:45

Men can't be women.

men don't have periods

Your colleague is deluded

FatFilledTrottyPuss · 23/01/2023 21:44

TBF to your colleague, my husband is well moody when I’ve got my own period and dd and I joke that he’s got his period too. Realistically I think it’s more bad temper because he knows he isn’t getting sex for a least another week. Maybe your colleague’s boyfriend is the same.