Question about trans women cycles

This is why I won't mis-sex people anymore. Once we start going along with nonsense, when do we stop? The claims only get more outrageous.

I agree. The absurdity never ends: men claiming to have PMS / periods, getting hurty feels because someone has the temerity to not give in to their lies, the 'brave and stunning' nonsense when they beat (sometimes literally) women in sports etc.

I'm no longer lying nor am I coddling someone with their delusions. Sex is determined at time of conception and is immutable. Humans cannot change sex. I am not using she / her / hers when speaking about men.

I thought the thread was going to be about bicycles too 🤣🤣

I'd just nod politely and smile of you value the friendship OP.

This however is one of the main reasons I'm now WFH and only have to interact with colleagues once a week. The world is going mad, I can't be arsed to keep up with the ever evolving PC bullshit.

I have become a hermit, because society just boggles me these days. At the meer age of 33 I've officially "checked out". I limit contact with places like the NHS and public services, I have a handful of friends who I see once a month who are also like me (my people) and I just don't engage with society.

Luckily I'm the mother of a only son, so he won't really have to worry about all this. 🙄

I have literally spat tea all over my lounge I can't stop laughing . I am definitely using those more in conversation 👍

Whichwhatnow · Today 13:03

Yes this is bollocks but appears to be quite a prevalent delusion. My neighbour goes on and on about her periods and how she can't wait to go through the menopause so she stops getting PMT. She's recently started mentioning hot flushes and how she can't wait to not be worried about an unwanted pregnancy.

She is very obviously a fully intact man (the clingy clothes around the crotch area and full beard make this extremely clear). It's insane.

I think 'shut up you disrespectful (rhymes with) farce' is the best response, follewed by 'you not only do not know, you can never know what you're talking about'

You could point out that you do not know, and can never know, what it feels like to get a knee in the nuts.

"Yes this is bollocks but appears to be quite a prevalent delusion. My neighbour goes on and on about her periods and how she can't wait to go through the menopause so she stops getting PMT. She's recently started mentioning hot flushes and how she can't wait to not be worried about an unwanted pregnancy.

She is very obviously a fully intact man (the clingy clothes around the crotch area and full beard make this extremely clear). It's insane."

This is why I won't mis-sex people anymore. Once we start going along with nonsense, when do we stop? The claims only get more outrageous.

One of the experiences that peaked me was seeing a male friend appropriating his partner's birth-giving and breastfeeding because he was 'the mother'. And watching idiot female friends fawning over him on his social media posts, none of which mentioned the woman who actually gave birth.

The relationship OP describes does not sound healthy at all.

I could not deal with that. I'm prepared to be polite and respectful where appropriate but menopause is a touchy subject as I approach it and I could not listen to that without going into sailor mode (it's like boy mode but with a f* of a lot more swearing).

I think I saw 'scrotum gantry' somewhere, I quite liked that one.

@Itismeghan my son knows he can dress and act in whatever way he chooses and that I will support his right to do so. He also understands that it's physically impossible to change sex. He's got a friend who's a trans boy; I call her by her chosen name, but I have explained to DS that under no circumstances will I refer to her as 'he', because she is not and cannot be male. I imagine he'd realise I'd apply the same principle to him.

Now JKR is more of a women than IW will ever be !

It’s a load of, quite literally, bollocks

Come on now, it 2023!
You can’t reduce people to genitals like that

You need to use people-first or active language now!

May I suggest

People-with-Bollocks
Owners-of-Scrotums
Testicle-having-Humans
Sac-Carriers

?

🤓

A trans woman is by definition a man, so ‘he’ is grammatically correct.

“I’d rather be rude than a fucking liar”

Oh - and transwomen are not women. They are men.

Men don’t have periods or period symptoms, I really couldn’t sit and listen to someone telling me about the cycle of someone born male. They’re both deluded and I wouldn’t take part in validating that.

As for if my children were trans, they wouldn’t be. They understand biology and reality. Children aren’t trans, you can’t change reality because of something that socially constructed. We need to stop gendering clothes, toys, activities and behaviours and help those who don’t feel comfortable with their body.

Er, no
there are way too many transwomen on social media making way too much noise about their “periods”, period pain, hormones. And what they say can be, in some case, very weird and definitely a sexual kick. It’s always rather strange boasting, and a lot of affirmation about how womanly or (idk) girly it makes them feel . At worst what they say about what they do should be made a criminal offence- tell me the last time a women (female human) explained about how they go through sanitary bins and stick used sanitary pads in their pants.

proportionally far less women go onto social media claiming they’re “all women” becuase they’ve got their period, stomach cramps etc. women talk about that in terms of the issues, complication and sheer frigging pain or even disability it causes them. E.g. in medical terms.

just like women (human females) don’t tend to go around saying “I’m more of a woman than so and so”

it is just affirmation at best, and at worst it is forcing others to enter into their sexual fantasy without consent.

I don't know what circles you frequent but I've never seen that on the FWR board on MN nor has it ever been an issue IRL.

Me, too.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone say that they wondered why transwomen don't talk about their ovulation cycle or periods.

Yes this is bollocks but appears to be quite a prevalent delusion. My neighbour goes on and on about her periods and how she can't wait to go through the menopause so she stops getting PMT. She's recently started mentioning hot flushes and how she can't wait to not be worried about an unwanted pregnancy.

She is very obviously a fully intact man (the clingy clothes around the crotch area and full beard make this extremely clear). It's insane.

@Itismeghan I would refer to my own children as the sex observed at birth, no way would my son be 'she'.

I've also decided that if my children bring any friends home that are trans and start telling me what pronouns to use then I will be telling them that I am trans too, on my 'male' days I do diy and put the bins out. If they question I'm going to say I'm like Pios Bunce and havent they heard of them.

Sick of this ridiculousness.

there are some men/transwomen that will always be in the “what about me” category . Hence the recent prevalence of “we are pregnant”, “we gave birth”, “post natel depression “ in new dads (not saying new dads don’t get depression, probably some get ptsd after traumatic births too- but it ain’t related to pregnancy hormones which is definition of PND )
It’s a load of, quite literally, bollocks.

This is what I was going to say

People do seem to be talking as though any trans woman talking about hormonal effects is trying to 'one-up' other women. I'm not a medic, I don't know what all the causes are of potential symptoms and haven't seen any impartial sources about them (though have seen comments/explanations from both sides), but it does seem like people spend a lot of time claiming 'If trans women really were women they'd talk about this or they'd do that'. And when trans women do 'talk about this or do that', then they go 'Eeuh, not like that

I agree with you in almost all circumstances but there are some complicated dynamics that can make straight-talking to trans identifying adolescents/young adults counter productive!

You see I don't think that I could help myself in this scenario. I would have to asks loads of questions in a quizzical way with lots of 'really, but how.....' to the point that they would make themselves sound even more stupid than they started off sounding!

Yes.
100% Yes.