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Question about trans women cycles

234 replies

Borris · 23/01/2023 20:34

I have a genuine question

I have a new ish work colleague who I get on well with and enjoy her company. She's a lesbian. Except that her girlfriend is a trans women. That's fine. I'm happy to refer to her by her chosen name and pronouns.

But what confused me is my friend saying more than once that their cycles had synched up and so they had one week a month when they were both super emotional.

Can this be a thing? Do trans women take different hormones at different times of the month? Genuine question, not being goady

Obviously only asking out of sheer nosiness. The first time she mentioned their cycles I didn't know that the partner was a trans woman and so now feel it's too late to ask!

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Boiledbeetle · 24/01/2023 22:17

Itismeghan · 24/01/2023 22:05

Trans people are being treated in the same way gay people were treated in decades gone by.

At the end of the day, they are people and deserve as much respect as the next person.

I have several trans friends and they are some of the kindest and most supportive people I know.

They didn’t choose to be trans, just as gay people don’t choose to be gay, but you can choose to be kind.

And again as you spear to have missed some posts

I have no children and so am unable to answer your question from an actual real life perspective.

But I would think if I did have children my son would, by the time he decided he was a transwoman, if I'd have done my job as a parent well enough, understand no matter how much he wished it was the case he could never actually be a woman.

I'd support my hypothetical son as my child, the child of mine they had always been. I'd still refer to them by the nickname I'd no doubt have given them at some point. I'd also respect his desire to go by a more female name if he wished. I'd support him to live his best life.

I'd hope he wouldn't feel so bad about his existing and only body that he felt the need to cut bits off, add bits and take medication not designed for him that could cause who knows what untold issues in the future.

If he did decide that was what he wanted to do then I'd still love him, I would still support him. I'd sit by his bedside waiting for him to come round, after mutilating his wonderful body that had nothing wrong with it.

But no I wouldn't use she. And i wouldn't have a daughter. I'd use their name, or they when talking about them, and refer to my child rather than my son or my daughter. I'd use their new chosen name, family nicknames etc when talking to them.

And the reason? whilst anyone is entitled to believe anything they want, I'm entitled to believe there are only two sexes, you can't change and my hypothetical male child will always be my male child and I would never allow my own child to believe such a terrible lie as the one which would have him believe he could be a woman.

This is being kind

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/01/2023 22:15

They didn’t choose to be trans, just as gay people don’t choose to be gay, but you can choose to be kind.

I choose to be kind to women and girls.

MillicentTrilbyHiggins · 24/01/2023 22:08

Itismeghan · 24/01/2023 22:05

Trans people are being treated in the same way gay people were treated in decades gone by.

At the end of the day, they are people and deserve as much respect as the next person.

I have several trans friends and they are some of the kindest and most supportive people I know.

They didn’t choose to be trans, just as gay people don’t choose to be gay, but you can choose to be kind.

No body is being unkind. TW can't have periods. They might want them. But they can't have them.

It's not unkind to say that.

PissedOffAmericanWoman · 24/01/2023 22:06

Itismeghan · 24/01/2023 22:05

Trans people are being treated in the same way gay people were treated in decades gone by.

At the end of the day, they are people and deserve as much respect as the next person.

I have several trans friends and they are some of the kindest and most supportive people I know.

They didn’t choose to be trans, just as gay people don’t choose to be gay, but you can choose to be kind.

Did you copy and paste that?

Itismeghan · 24/01/2023 22:05

Trans people are being treated in the same way gay people were treated in decades gone by.

At the end of the day, they are people and deserve as much respect as the next person.

I have several trans friends and they are some of the kindest and most supportive people I know.

They didn’t choose to be trans, just as gay people don’t choose to be gay, but you can choose to be kind.

DietCock · 24/01/2023 19:21

I attended a birthing class led by a transwoman

Bloody Hell @MeanCanadianLady. That takes pervy role-playing to a whole new level.

MidCenturyChild · 24/01/2023 19:09

IcakedefargeIam · 24/01/2023 19:04

Is it also a place like the Suez Canal? I hope it's that, 'wot I did on my holibobs!'

That made me laugh 😂

But still don't know what they meant 😂😂

IcakedefargeIam · 24/01/2023 19:04

Is it also a place like the Suez Canal? I hope it's that, 'wot I did on my holibobs!'

StarGoddess · 24/01/2023 19:04

MidCenturyChild · 24/01/2023 19:01

This seems like a good time to ask this question. On the reality TV series 'The Bridge', there was a trans woman who said they'd been through the menopause.

I'm still wondering what that could possibly mean!

That sounds awful going through menopause but at the same time not going through it. I can’t imagine. 🙄

How do they expect to be taken seriously when they make these ridiculously unscientific statements?

MidCenturyChild · 24/01/2023 19:01

This seems like a good time to ask this question. On the reality TV series 'The Bridge', there was a trans woman who said they'd been through the menopause.

I'm still wondering what that could possibly mean!

Boiledbeetle · 24/01/2023 19:01

MeanCanadianLady · 24/01/2023 15:17

If you ever struggle to find time I highly recommend the tempdrop! I used it when I was postpartum when my sleep schedule was too chaotic during the early days of new parenthood. It helps a great deal and takes the element of having to remember taking it every morning. Also night nurses swear by it. 😊

Fingers crossed unless i have to restart the bloody 12 month clock again it's no longer something I need to worry my pretty little head about!

MeanCanadianLady · 24/01/2023 18:55

DietCock · 24/01/2023 18:49

@Justasec321 I'm sorry you were similarly afflicted. I never knew that Javelin Arse had a name until I joined MN Grin

My period pain went away after I had children, thank God. I have no idea why, but perhaps a man would be able to enlighten me?

I mean they don’t mind enlightening us on everything else. I attended a birthing class led by a transwoman. I made an excuse halfway through to leave. Family emergency! Totally unavoidable. 😩🤷🏻‍♀️ Later got an email that it was canceled. I think that a lot of the ladies there were not pleased.

DietCock · 24/01/2023 18:49

Justasec321 · 24/01/2023 16:10

@DietCock I used to get all of that too. Awful. I remember lying on the floor of the loo in school unable to move. I could not leave the loo due to diarrhea, and vomiting.

It eased off in my 20s but from 13 to late teens early 20s I really suffered.

BUT - what causes that shooting pain in the rectum? I remember it - so horrible.

So far my dds seem to have avoided it thankfully.

@Justasec321 I'm sorry you were similarly afflicted. I never knew that Javelin Arse had a name until I joined MN Grin

My period pain went away after I had children, thank God. I have no idea why, but perhaps a man would be able to enlighten me?

HootyMcboob76 · 24/01/2023 18:39

Did any of us think that in 2023 we would be having to clarify to anyone, let alone other women, that men do not:

Have cervixes
Menstruate
Have PMS / PMT
Have cramping
Have monthly mood swings / crying jags
Have any kind of hormonal cycle
Bleed from any orifice on a monthly basis

I sometimes can't believe we've gotten to this point.
This is not a go at you OP, I'm just talking in general.

And yet there are SWATHES of people, including young women, who are falling for this all over YouTube and Tiktok.

How has the wool been pulled so thoroughly over people's eyes?
MEN.
Saying they have periods.

Dear Lord.

I had an argument with someone on YouTube today because she insisted that a man taking oestrogen would have his male voice turned into a female one (as we all know it doesn't work that way - only cross sex testosterone can lower a female voice, cross sex oestrogen has no effect on a male voice already changed by puberty).
She said "why do transwomen all have higher voices then? Evidence shows you are wrong!"

Delusion and handmaidening at it's best.

TheShellBeach · 24/01/2023 18:16

ZeldaFighter · 24/01/2023 18:15

I imagine OP would then be able to have a lovely chat with HR about how her values don't respect her workplace's inclusive values. And to leave. But don't complain about being forced to listen to stuff that offends your GC beliefs because that's transphobic and not inclusive.

I know. When is this wankery going to end?

TheShellBeach · 24/01/2023 18:15

StarGoddess · 24/01/2023 16:52

It’s entirely possible she is a lesbian and is torturing herself to try to please them…

Yes, that is a possibility. Some transwomen claim they're also lesbians (how, when they're men?) so they want to date actual lesbians.

I agree that it does sound as though the OP's colleague is tying herself up in knots, trying to accommodate this man's nonsense.

ZeldaFighter · 24/01/2023 18:15

TheShellBeach · 24/01/2023 16:48

It's depressing that the OP's work colleague is buying into her boyfriend's nonsense, to the extent that she is willing to share the details in the workplace.

OP perhaps needs to point out to her colleague that she is dating a man and could get pregnant, and is not exclusively a lesbian, either.

I imagine OP would then be able to have a lovely chat with HR about how her values don't respect her workplace's inclusive values. And to leave. But don't complain about being forced to listen to stuff that offends your GC beliefs because that's transphobic and not inclusive.

HootyMcboob76 · 24/01/2023 18:09

TheShellBeach · 24/01/2023 16:19

BUT - what causes that shooting pain in the rectum? I remember it - so horrible

Progesterone affects smooth muscles.

Proctalgia fugax.
Very common in males and females.

Various causes, usually no concern.

DeanVolecapeAKAelderberry · 24/01/2023 17:35

arf

Florissant · 24/01/2023 17:32

DeanVolecapeAKAelderberry · 24/01/2023 17:21

btw I thought that it was no longer the done thing to use that 'trapped in the wrong body' metaphor or excuse or whatever it was? Have the rules changed back again?

The rules identify differently today.

DeanVolecapeAKAelderberry · 24/01/2023 17:21

btw I thought that it was no longer the done thing to use that 'trapped in the wrong body' metaphor or excuse or whatever it was? Have the rules changed back again?

Whichwhatnow · 24/01/2023 17:20

TheShellBeach · 24/01/2023 16:33

Yet you refer to him as "she".

I don't have an issue with people identifying however they want so long as their choices don't impact negatively on other people.

MichelleScarn · 24/01/2023 17:19

TheShellBeach · 24/01/2023 16:48

It's depressing that the OP's work colleague is buying into her boyfriend's nonsense, to the extent that she is willing to share the details in the workplace.

OP perhaps needs to point out to her colleague that she is dating a man and could get pregnant, and is not exclusively a lesbian, either.

Wonder if the colleague and her dp then have lovely, girly chats at home about the lovely, girls period sharing chats the colleague has at work?.....

DeanVolecapeAKAelderberry · 24/01/2023 17:10

I'm a slim healthy woman trapped in an unaccountably portly body and my right knee aches. I have no choice but to live in it.

StarGoddess · 24/01/2023 16:57

Palmfrond · 24/01/2023 16:52

@Borris Perhaps your colleague’s partner is shedding the lining of their testicles on a monthly basis?

Sounds awful. 💐

omg this comment killed me! 😂