India Willoughby: I am more of a woman than JK Rowling will ever be

There IS a goddess. Mark Hamill's like is still there.
#MayTheForceBeWithYou

I believe Baroness was being sarcastic.

@BaronessEllarawrosaurus

No comprende?

It doesn’t matter how often the Monitors/India report posts that correctly refer to India’s sex here on Mumsnet, they can’t report what’s in my brain or how I refer to India in real life. You will never control that and I will never concede that. I will abide my MNHQ’s pandering rules for the sake of posting here, but I will not refer to India as “she” ever. I will never refer to any male as she/her ever, either in writing, or in real life.

Oh god, yes. With bells on. And glitter, there's always glitter*.

(*But not near a uterus. Think of the chafing 😳 )

<waves to the monitors>

Not the point here though . JKR is a women end of .

🤣 didn't even notice was juggling 3 thinks at once 180 would be better. IW is no ballerina any man wearing tights is simply max wall !

Iw is correct though, IW is a more 'real' woman than JKR , JKR doesn't nor has ever had the balls to be a 'real' woman

Hopefully at 180? Because a 360 would be a pirouette.

I wonder if IW identifies as more of a ballerina than Darcy Bussell…

TW like IW have brought this on themselves by their own actions and words and now they can live with it.

Quite. What do people like IW think when they gleefully boast about how they walked miles out of the way at the airport to deliberately enter a woman's toilet, walking past a mixed sex loos the way, in order to do.

Add me to the list.

I will refer to TW by their name I will NOT refer to them by anything else, I will pretzel my speech in order not to because I am fed up to the back teeth of being coerced to accept a blatant lie and falsehood.

TW like IW have brought this on themselves by their own actions and words and now they can live with it.

Hear hear

Gender is bad enough don't get me started on horoscopes 😂 had someone at work
" Ooh ooh , I bet you can't guess which star sign I am ?".
Simply did a 360 and walked away, so anyone who thinks I'm going to waste my time with pronouns 🙄

As an atheist I don't believe in blasphemy. As someone gender critical I don't believe in gender - therefore misgendering is about as relevant to me as getting someone's star sign wrong.

I understand that some people genuinely believe in horoscopes, but I reserve the right to consider horoscopes to be totally irrelevant. Like gender.

What a dick!! It's not because someone says something that it's true.
But just in case I am wrong....I am more of a Euromillions winner than whoever won the last mega-jackpot and am available to collect my winnings anytime.

Francis .. " it's symbolic of our fight against oppression"
Reg .. "It's symbolic of his fight against reality "
🤣🤣

Classic.

Well, the answer to that is neopronouns.
But as soon as someone deviates from standard English pronouns, the words they choose are no longer functioning as pronouns, they're essentially nicknames with added grammatical forms.

Pronouns exist solely to make communication easier and more fluid. If people have to think about them, they're useless.

Yes, exactly. Neopronouns are about as relevant as which flag stickers you put on your pencil case. Not all languages have pronouns.

Me too. As this so obviously becomes about male violence and oppression I’m not going along with it. It’s a no.

It doesn’t matter how often the Monitors/India report posts that correctly refer to India’s sex here on Mumsnet, they can’t report what’s in my brain or how I refer to India in real life. You will never control that and I will never concede that. I will abide my MNHQ’s pandering rules for the sake of posting here, but I will not refer to India as “she” ever. I will never refer to any male as she/her ever, either in writing, or in real life.

As the saying goes on Twitter, cope and seethe.

+1

I was going to say "correct sexing " but didn't think it would go down well .

Well, the answer to that is neopronouns.
But as soon as someone deviates from standard English pronouns, the words they choose are no longer functioning as pronouns, they're essentially nicknames with added grammatical forms.

Pronouns exist solely to make communication easier and more fluid. If people have to think about them, they're useless.

Surely, logically, pronouns must be sex-based? Apparently there are more than 100 genders (I’d probably say many times that, and call them personalities, but…you know). How can we manage different pronouns for each one? Why should only some genders get pronouns?
RedandBlue, you often tell women who don’t have a gender that their pronouns must be she/her, but how do you know that, unless you’re basing them on sex?

😁

You know just the thought of cervix and glitter in the same sentence made my pelvic muscles clench all of their own accord.

Shudders.

‘So where’s the foetus gonna gestate? You gonna keep it in a box?’

Love that scene. So prescient too!

Re 'misgendering' vs 'correct sexing', Spero's comments re her debate with RMW are interesting. Pronoun avoidance is sometimes the only option.

Sarah Phillimore and Robin Moira White interviewed by Andrew Doyle www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/sarah-phillimore-and-robin-moira-white-interviewed-by-andrew-doyle