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Wings Over Scotland: The Grooming of Holyrood

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DerekFaker · 23/01/2023 09:19

Good, detailed article on Beth Douglas and associates (Jess Bradley).

wingsoverscotland.com/the-grooming-of-holyrood/

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ArabellaScott · 23/01/2023 22:03

Glad to hear you're okay, purplecushion. And that your plans are going well, that's a nice distraction!

The section should be removed, yes, or have your name/image obscured. That wouldn't affect the rest of the story at all. I completely agree that your safety and wellbeing are imperative.

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 22:01

@thecaseofthepurplecushion looks like you've got a good one there. Tell her to give you an extra long tight hug from all of us.

I know it feels shit right now, but as it's out there then you have to look for each and every positive to come from that part of your life and hold on to those.

You wouldn't be The strong person you are today, where you are, with the person you love and are about to marry if those things in your past hasn't happened.

You've met a whole group of women who until today didn't know you. We do now, that won't change tomorrow or next week, we'll still be here if you need us.

I appreciate this might not help much, so have wine🍷x

thecaseofthepurplecushion · 23/01/2023 21:45

Just a quiet thank you to lovely mumsnetters for being great as usual. I am ok - my lovely almost-wife has been wonderful and basically abandoned her day to just be with me. We have a wedding venue and she took me out for dinner which was nice.

Wings over Scotland is adamantly refusing to take my section out so I'll be contacting Women's Aid & Scottish Women's Rights Centre tomorrow. I've also contacted gofundme to have the fundraiser removed.

If anyone else has any other ideas on how I can push for this, it would be welcome. Whilst you all do feel that this story needs told, I also feel that the safety of survivors is imperative.

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 19:20

DerekFaker · 23/01/2023 18:43

Things like this will keep happening as long as people have this attitude.

Well I refuse to accept it as an excuse anymore.

In order to understand all sides of a debate I read material from all sorts of sources (some which i wish i could erase from my brain forever, looking at you and your penis montage Darren Mews) to ensure I have all views on a matter. If someone mentions a new source I go and read it.

If people aren't bothered to educate themselves then so be it. But they don't then get to say "I didn't know, I didn't realise, I thought they meant something else, I believed what they said".

I'm done with pathetic excuses.

DerekFaker · 23/01/2023 18:43

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 17:40

Seriously are we not past the stage yet where people prefer to remain ignorant and safe within their little purity spirals instead of reading the bloody article

FFS

Things like this will keep happening as long as people have this attitude.

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Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 17:40

Seriously are we not past the stage yet where people prefer to remain ignorant and safe within their little purity spirals instead of reading the bloody article

FFS

Helleofabore · 23/01/2023 17:37

MajorCarolDanvers · 23/01/2023 15:18

You couldn't pay me to read something on Wings. Its an appalling site run by a disgusting thug.

Have you read the article? Is there something in there that you would dispute was correct?

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 23/01/2023 17:29

Anyway, this has appeared in the comments on the Herald article linked to above:

Wings Over Scotland: The Grooming of Holyrood
ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 23/01/2023 17:21

Hmm, I was hoping for something more specific from you, Major.

MajorCarolDanvers · 23/01/2023 17:15

@ICouldHaveCheckedFirst

evidence, please?

The last 10 years of Scottish politics

DerekFaker · 23/01/2023 16:50

"The anti terf misogyny that has contaminated the SNP "

www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/23268235.anti-terf-misogyny-contaminated-snp/?ref=twtrec

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DerekFaker · 23/01/2023 16:25

Oh you don't know a disgusting thug until you've read the article, believe me @MajorCarolDanvers !

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ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 23/01/2023 16:12

@MajorCarolDanvers - evidence, please?

ArabellaScott · 23/01/2023 16:04

IcakedefargeIam · 23/01/2023 15:21

But 'Band on the Run' was quite good.

Grin
WarriorN · 23/01/2023 15:40

I'm on the app and I'm not sure how to look at dms there but I'll check in a bit when I'm on my laptop. Thank you.

I find I can log in on desktop on my phone to access messages, outside the app.

I hope you managed to have
a lovely afternoon and the venue was what you were hoping for!

So glad mn helped you leave your abusing relationship. Flowers

I learnt all about key points of abuse from here, Lundy Bancroft etc and was able to support several close friends going through abuse and coercion with that info.

DialSquare · 23/01/2023 15:25

IcakedefargeIam · 23/01/2023 15:21

But 'Band on the Run' was quite good.

Grin
IcakedefargeIam · 23/01/2023 15:21

But 'Band on the Run' was quite good.

MajorCarolDanvers · 23/01/2023 15:18

You couldn't pay me to read something on Wings. Its an appalling site run by a disgusting thug.

thecaseofthepurplecushion · 23/01/2023 15:17

Helleofabore · 23/01/2023 15:17

@thecaseofthepurplecushion I have PM'd you. I hope you don't mind.

I'm on the app and I'm not sure how to look at dms there but I'll check in a bit when I'm on my laptop. Thank you.

Helleofabore · 23/01/2023 15:17

@thecaseofthepurplecushion I have PM'd you. I hope you don't mind.

thecaseofthepurplecushion · 23/01/2023 15:14

AgathaAllAlong · 23/01/2023 13:51

thecaseofthepurplecushion I'm also very sorry for what happened to you, he shouldn't have named you in the article. Congrats on your marriage, and well done for getting out of there, you've shown such strengh and courage. On the other hand, it surely is a good thing to have as many people as possible know that scum your abuser is, and see them for what they are. The screenshot where you are accused of changing as a result of fascist mumsnet is the only part of all that horror that made me smile - it's amazing how lifechanging having access to supportive women can be, no wonder men and transactivists hate mumsnet so much.

Thank you so much. And yes haha she used to stalk my internet history and hated that I was on Mumsnet but this website is the reason I left her. A website full of strong, wonderful women who are real champions of supporting survivors!

Ameanstreakamilewide · 23/01/2023 15:12

Datun · 23/01/2023 10:11

Good grief. Is there one, single solitary normal person involved in this ideology?

Nope. Like flies 'round shite.

WarriorN · 23/01/2023 14:24

... heavily edited to only reveal abusers.

pieceofpasta · 23/01/2023 14:17

This needs to be in major newspapers

SidewaysOtter · 23/01/2023 13:56

I wanted to add that I'm sorry for what happened to you, @thecaseofthepurplecushion , and that you've been the subject of further abuse. FWIW, I read the article feeling sorry for you and hoped that you'd been able to go on to a peaceful life but, while WoS clearly meant well by not linking to you now, the article has still outed you which it shouldn't have done. References to you should certainly have been removed once the harm it was doing was known.

Close off all of your social media, block those who are harassing you and I hope you enjoy your venue finding Flowers