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We are in the upside down - Magdalen Berns in the Daily Mail

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ArabellaScott · 21/01/2023 21:29

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11568569/Tragic-story-feminist-campaigner-work-inspired-JK-Rowlings-activism.html

Great to see Magdalen's legacy getting more coverage.

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Signalbox · 22/01/2023 18:33

What a thoroughly lovely article.

twanmever · 22/01/2023 16:53

BlackForestCake · 22/01/2023 14:19

it is the most gender critical of all the newspapers

The Mail is not gender critical, as a look at the sidebar full of pieces shaming women for wearing clothes and having breasts will quickly confirm.

It may not be all we want it to be, but at least they published when the rest turned their backs and put their fingers in their ears. For this I'll always be grateful to the DM.

DialSquare · 22/01/2023 16:43

Amazing woman. She was spot at on about this before many were even aware of the issues. I still go back and watch her videos every now and then as a reminder.

DerekFaker · 22/01/2023 16:39

Florissant · 21/01/2023 23:08

Lovely to see an article about MN. No, it's not surprising to see this in The Daily Mail - it is the most gender critical of all the newspapers. It would, however, be a surprise to see in The Guardian.

I hope Ivy Rachel MacKinnon (or whatever they call themselves now) is seething at this. I remember them tweeting a gif of a skeleton dancing on a grave when MB's death was announced.

Aiden Comerford will be as well. He never stops banging on about that one tweet where she lost her temper and called TRAs "blackface actors."

This made me a little teary, in a good way. Magdalen was an absolute force and her videos are brilliant.

bellinisurge · 22/01/2023 16:35

She peaked me. Sadly, it was after she died.

EmpressaurusOfWitchesBackFromTheDead · 22/01/2023 16:33

That was it!

NecessaryScene · 22/01/2023 16:27

I guess this is that event (or maybe she did that at every appearance!)

(timestamp 6:45 or so)

EmpressaurusOfWitchesBackFromTheDead · 22/01/2023 14:29

I remember her on stage at an event in 2016. She had the whole hall up on their feet shouting THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A LESBIAN WITH A PENIS!!!!!

BlackForestCake · 22/01/2023 14:19

it is the most gender critical of all the newspapers

The Mail is not gender critical, as a look at the sidebar full of pieces shaming women for wearing clothes and having breasts will quickly confirm.

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ArabellaScott · 22/01/2023 10:15

I remember hearing her speak many years back on youtube vids. It was like being blasted with the coldest blast of cold, fresh air I'd felt in ages. It was terrifying honesty. Simple straightforward truth.

Flowers RIP MB. Still in awe.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/01/2023 10:03

It's great that they link to her YouTube too.

Empowermenomore · 22/01/2023 09:12

I owe to her the resilience and respite her videos gave me to steer impressionable girls that did not fit, away from the physical damage to healthy bodies identifying trans meant then and now.

Did not succeed with all, but some.

Magdalen will be pleased to hear there are healthy lesbians enjoying their full sexuality thanks to her videos. RIP lovely Magdalen 🌸🌸

LizzieSiddal · 22/01/2023 09:10

Great article. She was really influential for me, she put everything in perfect, direct speech and hit the nail on the head beautifully.

unwashedanddazed · 22/01/2023 08:53

Lovely to see her being given credit for founding For Women Scotland. Their mighty voice is a fitting legacy for this wonderful woman.

twanmever · 22/01/2023 02:12

Magdalen was a breath of fresh air in the women's rights debate. Her clarity was simply astounding, and she made it so much more simple for women like me to be able to voice what was wrong when it seemed impossible to do so. I'm sad to see that after only 5 comments, no more are being allowed on the article. Rest in power Magdalen, the mightiest of us all.

DrDinosaur · 22/01/2023 02:01

It’s lovely to see her written about as the feminist heroine she was, in mainstream media.
It definitely shows how perceptions have changed - in 2016, had they noticed her at all, the Mail would have portrayed her as one of the loopy man-hating feminists involved in a hilarious spat with transwomen.

MadameDefargetheBoiledbeetleversion · 22/01/2023 01:17

JellySaurus · 22/01/2023 01:07

Magdalen's "I'd rather be rude than a fucking liar" was an epiphany for me. And I embraced it. The only thing holding women back from honesty is feminine socialisation.

You see for me that has been a philosophy I've had for most of my years of existence.

I've never been good at the whole feminine socialisation though, it wasn't how i was dragged up.

We are brought up with you want it. You take it. I think that's why I've always seen all this for what it is.

JellySaurus · 22/01/2023 01:07

Magdalen's "I'd rather be rude than a fucking liar" was an epiphany for me. And I embraced it. The only thing holding women back from honesty is feminine socialisation.

TinaYouFatLard · 22/01/2023 00:15

“Of course it terrifies you, Alex. They chop your cock off”

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/01/2023 00:12

That was a great read. RIP Magdalen Flowers

MadameDefargetheBoiledbeetleversion · 22/01/2023 00:11

BewitchedBotheredandBewildered · 22/01/2023 00:01

My favourie Magdelen quote was/is ' they're so open minded, their brains have fallen out'!

Perfect.

well she's been proved right this past few months and definitely this week.

BewitchedBotheredandBewildered · 22/01/2023 00:01

My favourie Magdelen quote was/is ' they're so open minded, their brains have fallen out'!

Perfect.

MadameDefargetheBoiledbeetleversion · 21/01/2023 23:24

I wrote this for the ode to Nicola thread.

I think you can work out which line was about MB

CONSEQUENCES

Those in cells with men
We cry for you

Those not on the podium
We cry for you

Those no longer in your job
We cry for you

Those vilified on line
We cry for you

Those who want to pee in peace
We cry for you

Those no longer here to fight the fight
We cry for you

To all you women in Scotland now
I cry for you.

Florissant · 21/01/2023 23:08

Lovely to see an article about MN. No, it's not surprising to see this in The Daily Mail - it is the most gender critical of all the newspapers. It would, however, be a surprise to see in The Guardian.

I hope Ivy Rachel MacKinnon (or whatever they call themselves now) is seething at this. I remember them tweeting a gif of a skeleton dancing on a grave when MB's death was announced.

Msgrieves · 21/01/2023 22:54

Left and right doesn't mean anything any more. She was great. I just appreciate people who tell the truth, bollocks to political allegiance.