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When trans rights trumps children's safety

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ReunitedThorns · 19/01/2023 17:24

This story has come about in my local area:

An elderly man spotted wearing a girl’s school uniform near a Leigh secondary school and on a bus “does not pose a risk”, according to police who have urged the public to stop sharing photos of him.

uk.news.yahoo.com/police-man-seen-outside-leigh-163212326.html

This old man is riding school buses and hanging around schools in full girl's uniform and bad wig.

Apparently the schools have had to arrange special assemblies to brief children not to travel alone.

But police don't want anyone to share images of this man online and he has told them that he is not a risk.

He's clearly not trans, but I fear that the police are so scared of the subject that they're allowing this behaviour to continue.

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MichelleScarn · 20/01/2023 09:57

Clymene · 20/01/2023 09:30

What mental illness causes you to lie about buying school uniform for your granddaughter to wear yourself and hang around at bus stops and board school buses wearing it (along with a bad wig tied in a pony tail)?

Exactly @Clymene but of course like a certain protected group it's all about 'he's the vulnerable one, what can be done to protect him from the big meanies not going along with his wish for people to accept him dressing as primary school girl and trying to get access to the school'.

terryleather · 20/01/2023 09:57

BlackForestCake · 20/01/2023 09:26

Depends whether being a dirty bastard with no sense of shame is classed as mentally ill.

Don't be ridiculous, it makes you brave and stunning and you need to be celebrated...

Clymene · 20/01/2023 09:55

DominoBlue · 19/01/2023 22:50

How on earth is he getting on a school bus? Around here its difficult enough to get a bus pass for a child who is actually entitled to one. There are two pupils who live next door to each other in a semi detached house and only one qualifies for a bus pass and the other has to walk 3 miles to school. Or kids who have moved schools due to unresolved bullying have to find their own way to school. Not even allowed to buy a seat if the bus isn't full. The bus driver needs to refuse to let him on without a valid bus pass.

I love @MMBaranova idea of making a speech from the police steps! Maybe we could all attend and invite the press.

We have 'school buses' here - they only run during school hours but they don't say 'school bus', they have a number and you pay usual fare for them. They are basically a supplement to the normal bus service and are overwhelmingly used by school children but anyone can board them.

I'd imagine that's what this guy is doing.

BordoisAgain · 20/01/2023 09:44

Clymene · 19/01/2023 21:09

And I'd like to remind Essex police that any man getting a sexual thrill from dressing inappropriately in public is involving everyone around him in his fetish.

I'm sure someone will be along soon to tell us that we are just Pearl clutching prudes who have rubbish sex, just like they were on the "furries in ikea" thread from the other day.

Clymene · 20/01/2023 09:30

oldwhyno · 20/01/2023 08:50

Not denying for one second that this wouldn’t be alarming and something ought to be done about it, but lots of people are jumping to the conclusion that this man is getting sexual thrills out of this. That’s not necessarily the case. He’s mentally ill and vulnerable, and steps should be taken to protect him and address understandable local community concern.

What mental illness causes you to lie about buying school uniform for your granddaughter to wear yourself and hang around at bus stops and board school buses wearing it (along with a bad wig tied in a pony tail)?

BlackForestCake · 20/01/2023 09:26

Depends whether being a dirty bastard with no sense of shame is classed as mentally ill.

MichelleScarn · 20/01/2023 09:24

Is he mentally ill or are people just saying that? According to the local newspaper online comments from people stating they are family he doesn't have any diagnosis I'm sure I've read!

mrshoho · 20/01/2023 09:19

BlackForestCake · 20/01/2023 09:08

Wouldn't surprise me to learn he was a serving police officer

Wouldn't surprise at all. Likewise retired judge, politician etc.

To people saying he's mentally ill and vulnerable, I'm not doubting that but equally he could be satisfying his sexual fetishes. He had the bold awareness to buy the uniform by falsely pretending it was for his granddaughter showing his understanding of what he is doing is wrong.

BlackForestCake · 20/01/2023 09:08

Wouldn't surprise me to learn he was a serving police officer

SinnerBoy · 20/01/2023 09:02

Thesonglastslonger · Yesterday 22:15

The children feel intimidated… It’s the crime of harassment. The police need to stop trembling that the trans activists might get cross with them and just arrest the creep in a wig harassing the kids.

I'd agree that he's causing them fear and harassing them that way. Perhaps the parents should help their kids make complaints, if the Police get inundated with complaints, they'll have to do something.

oldwhyno · 20/01/2023 08:50

Not denying for one second that this wouldn’t be alarming and something ought to be done about it, but lots of people are jumping to the conclusion that this man is getting sexual thrills out of this. That’s not necessarily the case. He’s mentally ill and vulnerable, and steps should be taken to protect him and address understandable local community concern.

Outwiththenorm · 20/01/2023 08:42

I wonder what the response would have been if he was hanging around in a boy’s school uniform - short, blazer and cap a la Just William/Krankies. No umbrella to hide under there and I imagine he would have been spoken to more strongly.

mrshoho · 20/01/2023 08:41

I've always been against vigilante action but in the absence of police action here I would understand parents taking it upon themselves to get him away from the school and buses. We don't have to stand by and be forced to accept the normalisation of adult men wearing girls school uniform. If he wants to get his kicks he should take it to an adult club well away from kids.

DialSquare · 20/01/2023 08:34

IneedanewTV · 20/01/2023 07:55

Someone will deal with him if the police won’t. That’s why the police need to sort it out.

This. I live very close to this area and I can not see this ending well. Particularly now it's hit the local news.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 20/01/2023 08:20

Meaningofthesea · 19/01/2023 17:32

But the police do seem to have investigated and have spoken to the man involved?

Oh well, he's fine and dandy then. 🤨

A late middle aged man, dressed in a girl's school uniform and hanging around the school...all above board i'm sure!

In old money, we'd just call him a pervert and the police would actually do something about it.
But that 'umbrella' is pretty big, so he's oppressed and vulnerable.

Jesus fucking wept.

unclebuck · 20/01/2023 08:18

Has Felix arrived to tell us that men in school uniforms are innocent until proven guilty and it is the children's discomfort that is the real issue here?

The man in school uniform is an old fashioned pervert, like we had in the 80s. He needs sorting out or his behaviour will escalate. The Police know this, everyone over 40 knows this. When my mum (now 76) was 9 a man started walking past her school in a school uniform. He was arrested immediately. Now the police will wait until he attacks someone, then question and discredit the victim and gaslight them. Fucking absurd.

WimpoleHat · 20/01/2023 08:17

And I'd like to remind Essex police that any man getting a sexual thrill from dressing inappropriately in public is involving everyone around him in his fetish.

Well put. And, in this case, children…..

Flaunch · 20/01/2023 08:09

Without any legal powers what are the police supposed to do? What laws is he breaking? People can wear what they like and going on the bus isn’t illegal.

IneedanewTV · 20/01/2023 07:55

Someone will deal with him if the police won’t. That’s why the police need to sort it out.

Chersfrozenface · 20/01/2023 07:08

DominoBlue · 19/01/2023 22:50

How on earth is he getting on a school bus? Around here its difficult enough to get a bus pass for a child who is actually entitled to one. There are two pupils who live next door to each other in a semi detached house and only one qualifies for a bus pass and the other has to walk 3 miles to school. Or kids who have moved schools due to unresolved bullying have to find their own way to school. Not even allowed to buy a seat if the bus isn't full. The bus driver needs to refuse to let him on without a valid bus pass.

I love @MMBaranova idea of making a speech from the police steps! Maybe we could all attend and invite the press.

It won't be a school bus. In an urban area many children won't live 3 miles or more from their school and will catch (and their parents pay for) a normal public service bus to school. That's what my kids did.

But the bus to the school at particular times in the morning and back in the afternoon will be almost entirely filled with schoolchildren, not general members of the public. Which is obviously the attraction for this... let's just use the word weirdo for now, shall we?

Magenta82 · 20/01/2023 00:23

Even if he isn't a risk to kids (I have my doubts) he is very much a risk to himself.

Someone is going to take the law into their own hands and it won't end well.

nocoolnamesleft · 19/01/2023 23:35

Safeguarding fail.

MichelleScarn · 19/01/2023 23:29

@IneedanewTV the uprising of #behind and #beyourtrueself basically I think!

IneedanewTV · 19/01/2023 23:00

It’s just not acceptable that a man Is allowed to wear a school girls uniform and hang around where children go. Years ago the police would have stopped this. What has changed?

DominoBlue · 19/01/2023 22:50

How on earth is he getting on a school bus? Around here its difficult enough to get a bus pass for a child who is actually entitled to one. There are two pupils who live next door to each other in a semi detached house and only one qualifies for a bus pass and the other has to walk 3 miles to school. Or kids who have moved schools due to unresolved bullying have to find their own way to school. Not even allowed to buy a seat if the bus isn't full. The bus driver needs to refuse to let him on without a valid bus pass.

I love @MMBaranova idea of making a speech from the police steps! Maybe we could all attend and invite the press.

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