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TRAs want mumsnet "out of politics", and tell Starmer to "eat shit"

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ResisterRex · 19/01/2023 15:09

There seem to have been a few choice scenes from the tantrum protest. Justine picked up on one of them:

twitter.com/justine_roberts/status/1616031361160167426?s=46&t=d4rirOTkVMDAxBI5lgrIYA

Of course, there's the charming "eat shit" message for Starmer:

twitter.com/guidofawkes/status/1616011710552330241?s=46&t=d4rirOTkVMDAxBI5lgrIYA

Perhaps a thread compiling such gems would be useful for when we're told the usual rubbish about it being "toxic on both sides".

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TheClogLady · 23/01/2023 11:18

MassiveWordSalad · 22/01/2023 20:22

They should change their name to Furries Against Posie Parker and publicly FAPP all over Glasgow. It would clarify things further.

😂

I hope they do turn up.

The optics will be WILD (pun intended).

MassiveWordSalad · 22/01/2023 20:22

They should change their name to Furries Against Posie Parker and publicly FAPP all over Glasgow. It would clarify things further.

SinnerBoy · 22/01/2023 17:48

Furries Against Facism? Goodness me! Do they know what faff means?

DarkDayforMN · 22/01/2023 17:47

ResisterRex · 22/01/2023 17:20

Oh wow. Some "furries" will protest KJK in Glasgow next. Sounds like a great idea for giving the public vertigo:

twitter.com/theposieparker/status/1617206965230354434?s=46&t=8o2Qvx2d5GnS2Ah1YbxMvw

This is so surreal, even by the standards of everything else this batshit ideology has brought into the world.

I don’t know whether to laugh my ass off or be worried at the prospect of an additional mob of unstable poorly socialised men with their faces covered. The creeps are escalating wildly.

They’re not doing their cause any good however it goes down, but then their real cause is bullying women.

ResisterRex · 22/01/2023 17:20

Oh wow. Some "furries" will protest KJK in Glasgow next. Sounds like a great idea for giving the public vertigo:

twitter.com/theposieparker/status/1617206965230354434?s=46&t=8o2Qvx2d5GnS2Ah1YbxMvw

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MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 22/01/2023 16:19

It’s says that Baker intends to stand for GE in Richmond Park Constituency but Labour is a very poor third there so even if Baker is the Labour candidate (will look for more info on that) it doesn’t mean much!

Next door constituency to mine. Good luck with that, is all I can say. That and Twickenham is always a Tory/LibDem fight. I can see that both are going to be solid LD from now on, given the calibre of the Tory candidates the party seems to have decided it's unwinnable for the foreseeable. S/he might pick up some sympathy votes, but no more than that.

SinnerBoy · 22/01/2023 16:18

Matthew Doyle seems to be an unpleasant specimen. Starmer needs to get a bloody grip and bang some heads together. But he won't.

ResisterRex · 22/01/2023 16:08

Some further background around why, perhaps, the press won't be asking more questions:

twitter.com/guidofawkes/status/1617116666097242113?s=46&t=WYaJey3WcgvQB5L6Rt2SJw

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ResisterRex · 22/01/2023 15:59

Picture of p5 of the Mail. "Labour's woman problem", "the SNP's woman problem", and the call for decapitation of women:

twitter.com/rosieduffield1/status/1617150908865052672?s=46&t=WYaJey3WcgvQB5L6Rt2SJw

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nilsmousehammer · 22/01/2023 10:06

It is a rather alarmingly clear laying out of hard facts.

Added to the long term belief of Labour left over from the Blair years: if the outcome you want is 'good' in your eyes, then anything you do on the way to achieving it is morally justifiable.

SinnerBoy · 22/01/2023 09:56

I think that's a very good summary of the situation.

ResisterRex · 22/01/2023 09:53

This is a really, really good thread by Dennis Kavanagh setting out why recent events resemble nascent terrorism:

twitter.com/jebadoo2/status/1616931012268937216?s=46&t=Y33w2yeBdzDFDImXXD48cA

"Shall we just see where we are members of the jury?

(i) A sign calling for the decapitation of "terfs" with MPs posing in front of it, they now claim to be unaware of such

(ii) A tweet calling for a car to drive into a group of women meeting to exercise freedom of speech

(ii.Cont.) Said women have now been advised of the need for private security in consequence of that threat

(iii) The author of said threat entertains what appear to be violent misogynist fantasies about killing a children's author and a sitting MP (female of course)

(iv) An SNP MP asked if intimidation of a labour MP was acceptable or if she felt any sympathy - answer "no"

(v) A Labour male MP spitting rage at another female MP to the point the speaker had to tell him to calm down

(vi) Said male MP then crossed the chamber to sit proximate to the female conservative MP in question to the point a male conservative MP was moved to sit near her as he interpreted this as an aggressive invasion of her space in a debate, ironically, about such issues

(vii) Male MP along with colleagues then attends a demo sharing a platform with a person convicted of serious violent matters.

(vii) Meanwhile lawful gatherings of women frequently attract balaclava clad persons with threatening signs

(viii) Such gatherings are occasionally marked by said persons allegedly possessing knives (Brighton) who are then arrested

(ix) The extremist ideology associated with said persons frequently posts violent memes and threats on social media particularly directed towards women

(x) Ideology also used dehumanising language such as "terfs" and, like a religion, construes any disagreement as "hate"

Member of the jury may regard the above as far beyond the embryonic indications of a a violent extremist force, my suggestion is that this is nascent terrorism. I say that because, properly analysed, there is no other description for three reasons thus:

1 - A terrorist will use or threaten violence to terrify people into compliance or frighten them out of public discourse. Their intention is to wield fear as a weapon in order to obtain silence or compliance. We have unanswerable evidence this is the case here.

2 - A terrorist operates on the belief their god/values/cause is so morally superior to any dissent it cannot be questioned and opposition must be crushed and treated as hate/heresy. That is true here you may think.

3 - A terrorist cannot accept the normal functioning of democracy, the use of proper legislation, like s.35, or public votes or free speech. They subvert normal parliamentary procedures and frighten MPs by their snarling or spitting or take to the streets threatening decapitation

In consequence, you may have little difficulty in concluding that these 10 examples are not a coincidence, they are a malign constellation, 10 things related to one truly despicable idea which must be defeated.

They are evidence of nascent terrorism."

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SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 22/01/2023 09:16

MargaritaPie · 21/01/2023 20:20

The lawyer who made the threats was a "gender critical". The victim was transgender.

Funny the things you will engage with and what you ignore.

And again all you show is your willingness to wilfully ignore things that would make your chums look bad!

But as I said earlier, thanks for your sterling public service. You have found one man who is being nasty to another extremely violent man.

SinnerBoy · 22/01/2023 08:47

MargaritaPie · Yesterday 20:20

The lawyer who made the threats was a "gender critical". The victim was transgender.

Yes, I'm aware of that, having read the article. I'm sure you understood that I meant that the same standards should apply to your side, thousands of them having posted all sorts of vile threats to women.

DerekFaker · 21/01/2023 20:27

nepeta · 21/01/2023 20:05

What is the picture (attached to the article) about someone lying on a bed with stocking tops showing? Does it have something to do with Baker? A part of a political campaign? I am confused.

southwarknews.co.uk/news/politics/camberwell-woman-sets-her-sights-on-becoming-uks-first-trans-gender-mp/

It is yes. They still have the beret on.

Colour me surprised that a violent TRA is also a prison abolitionist.

MargaritaPie · 21/01/2023 20:20

SinnerBoy · 21/01/2023 19:20

MargaritaPie · Yesterday 01:52

"A top Scottish lawyer has been fined after sending "foolish" tweets in that threatened a transgender councillor with gang violence."

Well, good. It's nice to see that you are finally in agreement that thousands of your fellow trans extremist zealots should be prosecuted.

The lawyer who made the threats was a "gender critical". The victim was transgender.

nepeta · 21/01/2023 20:05

What is the picture (attached to the article) about someone lying on a bed with stocking tops showing? Does it have something to do with Baker? A part of a political campaign? I am confused.

southwarknews.co.uk/news/politics/camberwell-woman-sets-her-sights-on-becoming-uks-first-trans-gender-mp/

SinnerBoy · 21/01/2023 19:20

MargaritaPie · Yesterday 01:52

"A top Scottish lawyer has been fined after sending "foolish" tweets in that threatened a transgender councillor with gang violence."

Well, good. It's nice to see that you are finally in agreement that thousands of your fellow trans extremist zealots should be prosecuted.

DerekFaker · 21/01/2023 19:01

"Breaking Scandal! 3 Labour MPs shared a platform with Sarah Jane Baker, who served 30 years in prison for attempted murder & kidnap."

"Labour claim in the @DailyMailUK they didn’t hear her comments, yet our video proves they were listening with rapt attention."

twitter.com/TottenhamConse1/status/1616599498599317505?t=nEFms3Nwjvxtjlczkl7g2w&s=19

PronounssheRa · 21/01/2023 18:02

EwwSprouts · 21/01/2023 17:14

@DarkDayforMN "He's not a random bad apple or fringe exception - he was allowed to speak at the House of Commons before."

Seriously? Invited by whom?

Possibly confusing with Karen Jones, convicted of manslaughter and attempted rape?

Though both make the point that some exceptionally violent males are being centred by politicians.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5440153/Trans-convict-invited-speak-House-Lords.html

EwwSprouts · 21/01/2023 17:14

@DarkDayforMN "He's not a random bad apple or fringe exception - he was allowed to speak at the House of Commons before."

Seriously? Invited by whom?

DerekFaker · 21/01/2023 16:02

Well this is creepy. Sarah Jane Baker is following and messaging GC accounts.

TRAs want mumsnet "out of politics", and tell Starmer to "eat shit"
TRAs want mumsnet "out of politics", and tell Starmer to "eat shit"
ResisterRex · 21/01/2023 10:13

Video perhaps showing the Labour MPs were there and able to hear what was going on. It's a short clip only though and doesn't include the "eat shit" chants:

twitter.com/tottenhamconse1/status/1616599498599317505?s=46&t=lylsIVaXDKTr7AvY58gHIw

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DarkDayforMN · 20/01/2023 14:34

Why are TRAs "aligning with" torturers anyway? They are most certainly "platforming' him.

Could we just post a picture of this guy every time some idiot comes on here to do the guilt by association thing? He's not a random bad apple or fringe exception - he was allowed to speak at the House of Commons before.

MassiveWordSalad · 20/01/2023 13:56

Sarah Jane Baker survived thirty years in male prisons, managing to try and murder someone, plus self-testicle-removal during that time. Not really sounding like one of the 'most vulnerable' people.

The powers that be should really bear Sarah Jane in mind when they think about where to house transwomen prisoners, what a case study Hmm