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OJ has a special message for us…

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Cuppasoupmonster · 19/01/2023 13:14

twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1616008459958231040/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1616008459958231040&currentTweetUser=OwenJones84

Gave me a laugh over my coffee anyway 😆 does he remind anyone else of arguments with their little brother? ‘You’re going to lose. Why are you hitting yourself’ etc 😂

Interesting he has never ever once engaged with any of the thousands of points as to why gender ideology is indefensible at best and harmful at worst, it’s always just ‘You’re going to lose… tiny minority… section 28’

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ShireWifeofNigelFarage · 13/02/2023 19:26

JanesLittleGirl · 13/02/2023 19:07

LOJ's problem would appear to be that while people can explain reality to him, they can't understand it for him.

😃

AnyFucker · 13/02/2023 19:19

He hates women.

That’s about the extent of it. He saw, with the increasing traction of trans rights, a vehicle to oppress us

Unfortunately, he doesn’t have the mental clarity to see how the tide is turning and I imagine will become increasingly angry and vindictive

TheKeatingFive · 13/02/2023 19:08

a) humans can't change sex b) men shouldn't be in women's spaces and therefore c) men who call themselves women still shouldn't be in women's spaces?

Its not that he doesn't understand this

It's that he will always see men's desires, no matter how trivial, as more important than women's safety.

It takes a LOT of mental gymnastics to avoid saying this out loud. But he's committed to the task.

JanesLittleGirl · 13/02/2023 19:07

LOJ's problem would appear to be that while people can explain reality to him, they can't understand it for him.

RoyalCorgi · 13/02/2023 19:03

I actually can't believe OJ is so stupid that he doesn't understand the argument. I mean, I genuinely can't believe it. Even my dog has a better understanding than he does. How hard can it be to grasp that a) humans can't change sex b) men shouldn't be in women's spaces and therefore c) men who call themselves women still shouldn't be in women's spaces? It's not hard, is it? How the fuck does someone this thick even pass their GCSEs let alone get into one of the world's most prestigious universities?

TheKeatingFive · 13/02/2023 18:54

if you maintain flexibility of thought

Not Owen's strong suit.

He's more about yelling people into submission 😆

ArabellaScott · 13/02/2023 18:47

Datun · 13/02/2023 18:29

Deciding to become a professional grifter was a mistake because it puts you at the mercy of prevailing sentiment

Yep.

I think it's quite possible to ride the waves of popular opinion; if you maintain flexibility of thought and enough insight to not nail your colours to the mast of a sinking ship.

Datun · 13/02/2023 18:29

Deciding to become a professional grifter was a mistake because it puts you at the mercy of prevailing sentiment

Yep.

potniatheron · 13/02/2023 14:04

I'm pretty sure that Owen Jones is not mentally well. The slow motion, public collapse of his career must be as painful for him as it is cringeworthily funny for me.

I don't have a huge amount of sympathy though, he went to Oxford and could therefore have had his pick of the market. Deciding to become a professional grifter was a mistake because it puts you at the mercy of prevailing sentiment

ILikeDungs · 13/02/2023 11:21

Oh, LOJ has found a news item to detract twitter away from his most recent crazy misogyny, while at the same time cynically blaming women. What a world.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/02/2023 11:18

Barbara Pym's comment Grin

WalfordBarbwireFence · 13/02/2023 10:17

Clymene · 13/02/2023 07:25

I think it's safe to say that it didn't go down well (and that's from people OJ hasn't blocked which is about 90% of women who have talked about women's rights on Twitter)

Muchos gracias. He's going to be busy for most of the day blocking even more people, I imagine.

What a sad little man he is.

Clymene · 13/02/2023 07:25

WalfordBarbwireFence · 12/02/2023 21:59

I've just been sent this by a "fellow traveller." I don't do Twitter myself but my partner in grime appended the following to the grab:

"He appears to have outdone himself with this. It's not gone down well on Twatter."

If anyone who does do Twitter might care to share samples of the opprobrium I am likely to be inestimably grateful!!

I think it's safe to say that it didn't go down well (and that's from people OJ hasn't blocked which is about 90% of women who have talked about women's rights on Twitter)

OJ has a special message for us…
OJ has a special message for us…
Cuppasoupmonster · 13/02/2023 00:17

I always find the ‘these are your allies’ argument to be so pathetic. It’s like ‘I can’t argue with what you’re actually saying so I’m going to try to undermine it by pointing out some unsavoury people agree with you.’ But by that logic Owen is on the ‘same side’ as a large number of sex offenders and paedophiles. I think he would take issue with that 🤷🏼‍♀️

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Rubidium · 12/02/2023 23:02

The Dan Hodges/ OJ exchange:
twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1624827869317701635 (scroll up)

Response from the Queens Speech chaps:
“Those chem sex parties are really catching up with the ageing twink, aren't they?"
twitter.com/QueensSpeechUK/status/1624852820670267401

WalfordBarbwireFence · 12/02/2023 21:59

I've just been sent this by a "fellow traveller." I don't do Twitter myself but my partner in grime appended the following to the grab:

"He appears to have outdone himself with this. It's not gone down well on Twatter."

If anyone who does do Twitter might care to share samples of the opprobrium I am likely to be inestimably grateful!!

OJ has a special message for us…
MmePoppySeedDefage · 12/02/2023 21:43

Non-sequitur - Gosh seeing Freddie coming into the video - that was definitely a female socialised entrance, even down to the ingratiating little smile. Despite having no gender identity, I'm not as feminine as that.

WalfordBarbwireFence · 12/02/2023 21:23

To be fair to the boy Jones I did in my cups once enquire of him whether or not he was as big a James Bl-....er...Jeremy Hunt in real life as he is on TV and radio and I as yet remain unblocked on his Faceberk.

I can't believe I just said "fair" and "[Owen] Jones" in the same sentence. My standards are slipping. And they were lower than a snakes belly in a tyre rut to start with.

Mollyollydolly · 12/02/2023 19:09

I normally wouldn't celebrate seeing a human unravel but I'll make an exception for OJ. Today he's comparing 'Women's rights' to the KKK because Birth of a Nation ...
Dan Hodges has told him he's an idiot who vilifies women's rights campaigner as far right. I hate he makes me agree with Dan Hodges.
It's quite hard to follow on twitter because obv I'm blocked, but I get the impression he's reaching the end of the road. Wrong side of history too many times. He's lost all credibility, he's just become a joke.

WalfordBarbwireFence · 12/02/2023 18:59

SinnerBoy · 12/02/2023 14:55

One of the most ludicrous things he's ever heard? I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that he's never listened to any of his own recordings.

Motion seconded!

nepeta · 12/02/2023 17:04

Cuppasoupmonster · 12/02/2023 15:51

I think they’re so misogynistic they don’t realise they’re misogynistic. In their own minds, the needs of men are so inherently superior to those of women, it’s just a natural way to think. If that makes sense 🤷🏼‍♀️

It does, for a certain group of men. Their worldview is so completely seen as the only correct one and their value rankings as objective, that misogyny does not register as such in their minds. They see themselves as fair and objective, because they do not examine their own biases in this context.

Cuppasoupmonster · 12/02/2023 15:51

I think they’re so misogynistic they don’t realise they’re misogynistic. In their own minds, the needs of men are so inherently superior to those of women, it’s just a natural way to think. If that makes sense 🤷🏼‍♀️

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RoyalCorgi · 12/02/2023 15:31

I always find the gaslighting element to be the most annoying thing about OJ, Bragg etc. If they just admitted they hated women it wouldn't be quite so bad. It's the relentless attacks on women individually and collectively, the blocking of feminists, the sneering dismissal of women's concerns, combined with the absolute denial that they are misogynists that drive me over the edge (as they are probably intended to). To my mind, if it looks like a misogynist and quacks like a misogynist it probably is a misogynist.

SinnerBoy · 12/02/2023 14:55

One of the most ludicrous things he's ever heard? I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that he's never listened to any of his own recordings.

Rubidium · 12/02/2023 14:42

In the wake of this morning’s reports in the Sunday Times on GIDS and the Tavistock, can I just post this little gem that has resurfaced?

twitter.com/berk_hamstead/status/1624355062230441985