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OJ has a special message for us…

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Cuppasoupmonster · 19/01/2023 13:14

twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1616008459958231040/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1616008459958231040&currentTweetUser=OwenJones84

Gave me a laugh over my coffee anyway 😆 does he remind anyone else of arguments with their little brother? ‘You’re going to lose. Why are you hitting yourself’ etc 😂

Interesting he has never ever once engaged with any of the thousands of points as to why gender ideology is indefensible at best and harmful at worst, it’s always just ‘You’re going to lose… tiny minority… section 28’

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ArabellaScott · 19/01/2023 19:37

MoirasSaggyBundles · 19/01/2023 19:08

I've not read the whole thread, so apologies if this is already posted here. His nasty little rant has been given the irreverent State Media treatment it deserves.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/01/2023 19:37

I told him I was looking forward to going to Hell, as I wouldn't have to spend eternity with a gang of loonies like him.

Yes, that's rather how I feel about The Right Side of History.

Boiledbeetle · 19/01/2023 19:31

MoirasSaggyBundles · 19/01/2023 19:08

I've not read the whole thread, so apologies if this is already posted here. His nasty little rant has been given the irreverent State Media treatment it deserves.

Oh that is so much more enjoyable to watch than the original.

That's how i imagine him speaking when i read his words anyway!

gravyriceandchips · 19/01/2023 19:26

He should of stuck whatever he is reading from next to his camera, not on the desk. It is even worse listening to this the fact he keeps looking down so much.

Wish I could identify those books behind him lol.

Cuppasoupmonster · 19/01/2023 19:26

He’s always hidden behind his trace of a northern accent and sexuality, when IRL he had a very middle class upbringing and now lives in the London bubble surrounded by his trendy LGBTQIA middle class hipster mates.

We have a poundshop OJ at work, but straight - he can regularly be found on Facebook and Twitter, shouting down women and non-white people about how wrong they are on matters of disadvantage/discrimination/sexism. While his other middle class white male friends join in all ‘hope you’re okay, lots of bigots around today’ 😂

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hennylovespens · 19/01/2023 19:23

LadyOfTheCanyon · 19/01/2023 15:11

He's a nasty little misogynist, who as a gay man thinks that he's oppressed more and therefore can say what he wants.

I really enjoyed Chavs at the time. I now regret ever having given him any money or attention at all.

I'm glad I bought mine second hand now.

nilsmousehammer · 19/01/2023 19:20

You can hear the Mr Murdstone Religious Zealot Fire and Brimstone You're All Going to Hell speech in the muppet voice in the link moira shared above. Channeling centuries of women-hating men there. Centuries .

And he's totally unaware of the cognitive dissonance or hypocrisy.

All he (and the entire TQ+ political lobby) need to do is to go through his speech and apply everything he says equally to biological women. That would make a hell of a lot of this go away overnight.

But that's the evil. That's the crime. Women refusing to be subordinated. (And we will lose. And we will burn for eternity. We will be damned for the suffering we've caused by not being raped and excluded naicely like good girls. The angels will weep for us.....and so on. A quick flick through Jane Eyre or a Magdalen laundries history book will give you the main gist of the message).

PermanentTemporary · 19/01/2023 19:19

Christ.

I look at the girls around me transitioning out of their adolescent struggles in a really rather pointless way that will probably get left behind as they grow older but with distressing physical damage, and the bravery of my friend who is holding her family together while her spouse comes out as nonbinary and blames her for getting married at all (pink hair is the new red sports car tbh) and I think Owen just hasn't a bloody clue. About any of it. About us or even himself.

I was married to two men who were too clever for therapy, and it was tiring tbh. I'd put OJ in that category.

WarriorN · 19/01/2023 19:14

Did anyone get a screenshot before it went poof? I'm also blocked 🤣

MoirasSaggyBundles · 19/01/2023 19:08

I've not read the whole thread, so apologies if this is already posted here. His nasty little rant has been given the irreverent State Media treatment it deserves.

SinnerBoy · 19/01/2023 18:57

WeeBisom

It reminds me of this rather unpleasant Evangelical woman I knew who was so angry at me for not giving god a chance, that she said she looked forward to the day when she could watch me burning in hell...

Crikey, I was stuck in a work situation, with a bloke like that. I told him I was looking forward to going to Hell, as I wouldn't have to spend eternity with a gang of loonies like him.

Datun · 19/01/2023 17:53

nepeta · 19/01/2023 17:33

The benign interpretation is that he identified with (yes, the old use of the term!) the trans cause, given his possible negative experiences of how gays were/are treated, and because he didn't spend much time thinking it through (women tend to be invisible to a lot of people as something else than bit players, supporters, and resources), he is now tangled in the web he himself wove.

Yes, I agree that's probably it. A whole bunch of gay friends who liked presenting as women.

He was not expecting the massive AGP lot to make it all so ridiculous.

That no-one knows what sex they are, but despite that, men are women and rapists need to be given incarcerated females, with a side helping of girl dick, you bigot.

I'd have more respect for him if he decided to analyse it appropriately. But now he's utterly caught up in the AGP lot, he's gotta keep getting those likes.

WandaWomblesaurus · 19/01/2023 17:51

Frothing in his pants.

WandaWomblesaurus · 19/01/2023 17:50

Oh bless.
I wonder if he realises how many people in his inner circle actually hate him but aren't saying anything yet.

Has anyone done a Downfall parody of him?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/01/2023 17:48

He thinks saying, "you're going to lose all your rights" to women is going to have any effect other than making us find him even more contemptible than we already do? What a joke he is.

He's definitely playing to his gallery of misogynistic arseholes and the deluded.

ArabellaScott · 19/01/2023 17:37

WeeBisom · 19/01/2023 17:19

Wee OJ sounds like a fire and brimstone preacher, railing against non believers for rejecting Jesus. It reminds me of this rather unpleasant Evangelical woman I knew who was so angry at me for not giving god a chance, that she said she looked forward to the day when she could watch me burning in hell (she believed there would be viewing stations in heaven!) He's so gleefully looking forward to the holy day when we are all wailing and gnashing our teeth because the trans side has 'won'. (And...how can they possibly win? They want to be, to actually BE, women. This is impossible.)

Just look at his language...vindication, absolution. Our 'souls' are tainted, and we will forever regret being sinners. It's batshit.

Spot on. It's 'repent, sinners, the end is nigh'.

nepeta · 19/01/2023 17:33

The benign interpretation is that he identified with (yes, the old use of the term!) the trans cause, given his possible negative experiences of how gays were/are treated, and because he didn't spend much time thinking it through (women tend to be invisible to a lot of people as something else than bit players, supporters, and resources), he is now tangled in the web he himself wove.

WeeBisom · 19/01/2023 17:19

Wee OJ sounds like a fire and brimstone preacher, railing against non believers for rejecting Jesus. It reminds me of this rather unpleasant Evangelical woman I knew who was so angry at me for not giving god a chance, that she said she looked forward to the day when she could watch me burning in hell (she believed there would be viewing stations in heaven!) He's so gleefully looking forward to the holy day when we are all wailing and gnashing our teeth because the trans side has 'won'. (And...how can they possibly win? They want to be, to actually BE, women. This is impossible.)

Just look at his language...vindication, absolution. Our 'souls' are tainted, and we will forever regret being sinners. It's batshit.

WallaceinAnderland · 19/01/2023 17:15

FrancescaContini · 19/01/2023 15:22

@Beowulfa excellent points especially use of “inconvenient”.

I think this is what they mean by bigot -

Bearing
Inconvenient
Glaringly
Obvious
Truths

SinnerBoy · 19/01/2023 16:41

Cuppasoupmonster · Today 16:00

That’s a really good point I have never once seen him engage in live debate about this with even the most inoffensive yet respected GC women - like Maya or Helen.

He won't engage with anyone who dissents in even the mildest way, about anything he says. He's got millions blocked on Twatter. He certainly won't engage on this, as he knows he'd be comprehensively humiliated.

EndlessTea · 19/01/2023 16:27

IceyDicey · 19/01/2023 16:11

OJ can identity as a woman and then have his own baby, simple. I can’t see a flaw in that at all. Because TWAW.

I can imagine the heartwarming Channel 4 documentary ..

Datun · 19/01/2023 16:19

And he can’t wang on about ‘not wanting to engage the phobes and give them attention’

Haha! Is that what he says? No wonder work is drying up.

IceyDicey · 19/01/2023 16:11

Abccde · 19/01/2023 14:52

He wants a child though.

He will need a woman for that.........

OJ can identity as a woman and then have his own baby, simple. I can’t see a flaw in that at all. Because TWAW.

ArabellaScott · 19/01/2023 16:05

Rousing, galvanising speeches aren't ever about attacking other people and trying to make them feel bad. 'We will fight them on the beaches' was about the courage and indomnitable spirit of the Brits, not how rubbish the Germans were. 'I have a dream' was about a beautiful, positive vision of harmony, not about 'burning' your enemy.

'You're going to lose and everyone hates you' just isn't terribly inspiring for the Right Side of History.

He's just a raging, resentful wee boy, lashing out because he knows he's losing.

Cuppasoupmonster · 19/01/2023 16:03

And he can’t wang on about ‘not wanting to engage the phobes and give them attention’ because he has been quite happy to debate other contentious issues with people he fundamentally disagrees with.

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