Miriam Cates abuse in HoC by Lloyd Russell-Moyle

What I found most disturbing was his behaviour later in that session where he first moved to the SNP bench to stare across at Miriam and then moved to a Tory side seat a few feet from her staring at her until MP Philip Bristow moved and sat next to her and positioned himself to block the intimidating stare. This was an act of male psychological violence that I'm sure others here have experienced. All the hollow apologies in the world do not excuse what he did. He needs to be disciplined/whip removed.

God yeah, sorry my bad. I'll just go have a word with myself. One of the benefits of a split personality is that's much easier to do!😁

Boiledbeetle · Today 15:41

So I'm no good with Twitter so maybe someone with skills can look, but Lloyd seems to have gone rather quiet on Twitter since his behaviour got vilified.

Vilified? Bullied by merciless and violent TERFs, surely?

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I wondered if anyone else had been looking up the Kit Kat business, I fell down that rabbit hole too

Twitter rabbit hole! Kitkat!

Yes, how lovely

SNP: I see your "eat shit" and I raise you...

twitter.com/murdo_fraser/status/1616809213954756611?s=46&t=S7UwtkJvbfVbf0xjnxWZfQ

twitter.com/joannaccherry/status/1616796097602588673?s=46&t=S7UwtkJvbfVbf0xjnxWZfQ

I like the way she's so clear and definite though..and interestingly, he capitulates at times and effects a very different demeanour when challenged and put on the spot by someone with a degree of control over him.

So I'm no good with Twitter so maybe someone with skills can look, but Lloyd seems to have gone rather quiet on Twitter since his behaviour got vilified.

I hadn't realised he'd also moved to sit near Miriam which seems like an act of pure intimidation to me. Absolutely disgraceful behaviour!
His attitude and behaviour fall very far short of that which we expect from people in his position, at the very least, he should lose the whip but we know nothing will happen to him!
Disgusting little excuse for a man!

This has caused me to grind my teeth down jnto nubs, could you please give a trigger warning next time?!

Shameless twat he is.

It's so ridiculously out of order, the only conclusion is it's deliberate.

Could we rely on MPs to declare their expenses correctly?

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One can only hope that all the sex offenders responsible for confiding in the police about deciding that they're women don't contact one of these Met officers:

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/met-police-chief-two-retired-29002972

Let's look clearly at what they did, why they did it, and how it affected the victims they abused, and then discuss whether they should be sent naked into a shower with this woman who has nowhere to run to and can't identify out of her nightmare.

And yet when told exactly this information what do some people do! "Oh but that's only a tiny amount of women, so it doesn't count, it doesn't matter, it's not worth worrying your pretty little head about. Instead worry about some woman's you tube video quality and presentation".

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I would really like to hear the opinion of the police team that spent sometimes years dealing with searches, victims, their families, the lifechanging damage that a sex offense causes, all the work to get a conviction through court and to the point where that offender is behind bars to protect the public. Which is, statistically, largely women and children.

When they then hear that this individual has been moved to a women's prison because they wanted it.

Why fucking bother taking them off the streets?

Considering how very, very difficult it is to prosecute rape at all, never mind get to any kind of conviction, any male in prison as a sex offender has committed extreme, serious and usually repeated attacks on women and/or children.

Some of the rap sheets of people in question should be discussed in this conversation because that is what these nutjobs are so very happy to expose trapped, non consenting women to in their social experiment. Let's look clearly at what they did, why they did it, and how it affected the victims they abused, and then discuss whether they should be sent naked into a shower with this woman who has nowhere to run to and can't identify out of her nightmare.

I mean If you think you should just trust a sex offender you have to wonder why they bother having a register of them all? Or why, unless their whole sentence was spent in prison, they are under the probation service until the end of their sentence.

Surely you don't even need to bother jailing any of them anyway as once they've been arrested the first time they will see the error of their ways and never do anything illegal our dodgy ever again.

Actually dont even bother with the arresting, just a quick "as you are mate carry on" to the grown man in school uniform harassing young girls, because that will ensure he behaves himself.

Right?

What they could have done is have a blanket ban as originally proposed with an appeal process where, maybe, a sex offender with a record that is so minor and so long ago, that refusal of grant of a GRC to them could be reconsidered.

That is, safeguarding with a remedy to possibly deal with very hard cases which are arguably unfair.

Relying on the honesty of sex offenders? Nothing could go wrong.

What could possibly go wrong?

For the benefit of others:

2. At Stage 2 therefore I made a commitment that ahead of commencement of the Bill the Cabinet Secretary for Justice will introduce regulations to amend the Sex Offender Notification Requirements so that those on the register are required to notify the Police with details as to whether they have made an application for a gender recognition certificate.

So the process is that a sex offender applies for a GRC, if they decide to follow the rules they notify the Police, if the Police can be arsed they do a check on the background of the sex offender to do a full review to determine whether their risk is low enough to not prevent grant of the GRC, the Police then interact with the General Registrar who controls the process of granting GRCs, and as a result of this, apparently, GRCs only go to sex offenders who present a low enough risk for them holding a GRC not to be of concern.

Thanks very much. I thought it would be somewhere but nice to have it to hand.

What a fucking loophole to deliberately introduce to appease trans activists.

Sex offenders. That famously honest group!!!