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Miriam Cates abuse in HoC by Lloyd Russell-Moyle

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ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 12:50

twitter.com/MPIainDS/status/1615658364146487297

I thought MPs were bound by some standards of behaviour?

Yesterday the leader of the SNP at WM called his peers 'rabid gammon', which was shocking, but what I found more disturbing was Llloyd Russell-Moyle's verbal attack on Miriam Cates (clip above).

I actually found his behaviour frightening and alarming, and can't imagine how it must feel to have that venom directed at you by a colleague - let alone the slanderous accusations made.

Is it possible to make a complaint to the Labour Party about his behaviour?

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JanesLittleGirl · 22/01/2023 22:11

I did mean LRM but he's a twat however you arrange his initials.

JanesLittleGirl · 22/01/2023 22:08

To be clear, given the choice between voting for RLM and next door's cat, the cat would get my vote.

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2023 19:59

I'd forgotten that. I bet he's not included in the family Christmas newsletter distribution list anymore.

ResisterRex · 22/01/2023 19:56

It wasn't just that, it was clear from the debate that he'd not asked the parents whether he could use it for misguided political "gain" talk about the tragic death of their son publicly. It's a vile thing to have done. I'd be devastated all over again, were that my child.

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2023 19:54

DarkDayforMN · 22/01/2023 19:43

I suppose it shouldn’t be a surprise after his “teach schoolkids strangulation techniques” contribution to the discourse, but somehow I assumed his rabid TRA status was merely a result of being deeply stupid and off the charts misogynistic.

As it so often transpires, it looks there might be other reasons. Is Labour going to do anything about him?

Yeah the obvious reaction to the death of his young family member in such a way should have been get porn on the internet sorted and teach children you should never ever ever ever put your hands or anything else round yours or another person's throat and tighten till hardly breathing or dead.

Not oh yeah that's fine but when they start to lose consciousness, then relax your grip and don't squeeze to hard as then then might accidentally die

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2023 19:49

nilsmousehammer · 22/01/2023 19:45

There's never any unconnected dots, is there? It's all there. Always.

And if we can all join the dots why can no one in a position of power or responsibility do the same.

nilsmousehammer · 22/01/2023 19:45

There's never any unconnected dots, is there? It's all there. Always.

DarkDayforMN · 22/01/2023 19:43

I suppose it shouldn’t be a surprise after his “teach schoolkids strangulation techniques” contribution to the discourse, but somehow I assumed his rabid TRA status was merely a result of being deeply stupid and off the charts misogynistic.

As it so often transpires, it looks there might be other reasons. Is Labour going to do anything about him?

ResisterRex · 22/01/2023 19:17

Perhaps next weekend, the Mail can go with:

"Does Labour have a child protection problem?"

There's plenty of material.

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2023 19:14

@ResisterRex I'm feeling rather angry right now but it I say what I want to say I will be banned.

Here's the edited version @#£%&-345%"*':;;+&£#='+++'"%##= "!!!!! Fucker

ResisterRex · 22/01/2023 19:06

Good Lord. Does Labour do any due diligence at all?

twitter.com/jamesesses/status/1617104167511724032?s=46&t=SYKHcUGQCCwiXHjnvsJygw

"Many of us are concerned by the sexualisation of children within gender ideology.

Here are materials from ‘Socialist Educational International’, stating: “children are sexual beings from their birth onwards”.

I note that a contributor to this document is Lloyd Russell-Moyle."

twitter.com/jamesesses/status/1617104170552623105?s=46&t=SYKHcUGQCCwiXHjnvsJygw

"Full document:

ifm-sei.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/RR-English.compressed.pdf"

AnyFucker · 22/01/2023 18:56

LRM is not very articulate, is he ?

His “arguments” simply crumble in the sunlight. He is put to shame by the clever and informed women he despises so much.

ResisterRex · 22/01/2023 17:04

Pat McFadden saying he didn't know what LRM was doing, in crossing the floor:

twitter.com/guidofawkes/status/1617119860512722944?s=46&t=8o2Qvx2d5GnS2Ah1YbxMvw

Fairyflaps · 22/01/2023 14:40

Never underestimate how much some men hate women having the temerity to speak.

I and others made complaints about 2 local councillors (male) after they displayed similar intimidating, angry behaviour in a meeting. It was shocking. It was a consultation about licensing policy review, and a number of us had been invited to come in and give our time and share our views on the policy. The councillors concerned were both members of the licensing committee, and there was no reason that the issue should affect them personally in any way.

But they were so angry that spit was flying out of their mouth as they spoke. One of them turned an alarming shade of red in the face. The other threatened one of the invitees with legal action (without any justification whatsoever). And of course raised voices, and finger jabbing. Though they stood up out of their seats, at least they didn't cross the room. but it was in a fairly formal committee setting. The worst of their anger was targeted at a female youth worker in her 20s, as far as I could tell because she was female and the youngest person in the room.

At the end of the meeting, the chair of the meeting came and gave us the contact details for the council's standard officer, so we could make complaints - which we did. The outcome was the offending councillors were required to write letters of apology to all those present in the meeting. That was the only 'punishment' the council's standards officer had at their disposal. Their party couldn't give a toss.

One of them has since had his party whip removed after using the N-word repeatedly in a council meeting which was being live-streamed. Again nothing the council itself could do beyond asking for apology and recommending E&D training. The other was promoted to a cabinet post within the council.

It's done its job though. No way will I be getting involved in local politics. I am in awe of the women who do, despite the toxicity from their fellow politicians, often within their own party.

ArabellaScott · 22/01/2023 13:46

Hadalifeonce · 22/01/2023 12:53

What added to my anger, was my MP standing up, not to defend Miriam but to complain about being lumped in with the rest of her party as a bigot!

Aye, with a weaselly wee suggestion that LRM maybe should't call MC what he called her, perhaps, if he didn't mind.

'DO IT TO JULIA!'

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Hadalifeonce · 22/01/2023 12:53

What added to my anger, was my MP standing up, not to defend Miriam but to complain about being lumped in with the rest of her party as a bigot!

PronounssheRa · 22/01/2023 12:43

SapphosRock · 22/01/2023 10:28

Interesting that the policy advisor for Lloyd Russel-Moyle is Carly-May Kavanagh, the TRA who yelled at the SFW event and called a baby a fascist.

It appears neither of them can tolerate women speaking.

Aside from everything else the pair of them could do with some anger management therapy.

Birds of a feather and all that.

Workerbeep · 22/01/2023 11:24

Lloyd russell-moyles needs to be thrown out of Westminster for the intimidation shown towards Miriam Coates.

Thank you Miriam.

he can froth at the mouth, postulate and finger stab all he likes I don’t care it’s only him raising his blood pressure; but moving seats and purposely sitting right next to her and staring like that. It needs called out.

I’ve only managed to find a photo of him sitting so close to her and aggressively staring. How on Earth is this acceptable behaviour of a MP on any level?
where was security?
do you think he’d have done that to another man?

No comment and support him gently reminds us all that it is acceptable for other men to do this in public

So unsettling and demonstrates his contempt for women and those with a differing opinion.

nilsmousehammer · 22/01/2023 10:31

SapphosRock · 22/01/2023 10:28

Interesting that the policy advisor for Lloyd Russel-Moyle is Carly-May Kavanagh, the TRA who yelled at the SFW event and called a baby a fascist.

It appears neither of them can tolerate women speaking.

Aside from everything else the pair of them could do with some anger management therapy.

Anyone sufficiently unwell to shout in that way at a baby needs rather more care than that.

SapphosRock · 22/01/2023 10:28

Interesting that the policy advisor for Lloyd Russel-Moyle is Carly-May Kavanagh, the TRA who yelled at the SFW event and called a baby a fascist.

It appears neither of them can tolerate women speaking.

Aside from everything else the pair of them could do with some anger management therapy.

ArabellaScott · 22/01/2023 10:16

IcakethereforeIam · 21/01/2023 18:41

Gosh, LRM is tall, unless he was standing on a woman?

😂

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ScrollingLeaves · 22/01/2023 09:28

Just to make sure anyone following this story is aware of the petition started by Sex Matters to update the Equality Act to make clear that ‘sex’ means biological sex,

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4668426-petition-update-the-equality-act-to-make-clear-the-characteristic-sex-is-biological-sex?page=1

IcakethereforeIam · 21/01/2023 18:41

Gosh, LRM is tall, unless he was standing on a woman?

DerekFaker · 21/01/2023 18:38

"Breaking Scandal! 3 Labour MPs shared a platform with Sarah Jane Baker, who served 30 years in prison for attempted murder & kidnap."

"Labour claim in the @DailyMailUK they didn’t hear her comments, yet our video proves they were listening with rapt attention."

twitter.com/TottenhamConse1/status/1616599498599317505?t=nEFms3Nwjvxtjlczkl7g2w&s=19

Abhannmor · 21/01/2023 17:48

Looking at it again , he does seem to be having a psychotic episode of some kind.

He is like a different person talking to Hartley Brewer? Calmer at any rate.