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Miriam Cates abuse in HoC by Lloyd Russell-Moyle

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ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 12:50

twitter.com/MPIainDS/status/1615658364146487297

I thought MPs were bound by some standards of behaviour?

Yesterday the leader of the SNP at WM called his peers 'rabid gammon', which was shocking, but what I found more disturbing was Llloyd Russell-Moyle's verbal attack on Miriam Cates (clip above).

I actually found his behaviour frightening and alarming, and can't imagine how it must feel to have that venom directed at you by a colleague - let alone the slanderous accusations made.

Is it possible to make a complaint to the Labour Party about his behaviour?

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AlecTrevelyan006 · 23/01/2023 22:48

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 11:29

He's back on Twitter spouting his lies👇

He's talking Complete bollocks of course

He’s taking the piss

MorvenOfMalvern · 23/01/2023 22:46

The quote tweets on LRMs latest non apology are just exploding. Over 800 and counting!

AutumnCrow · 23/01/2023 19:01

I've now written to the Speaker's Office.

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 18:57

ResisterRex · 23/01/2023 18:32

Finding myself once again on the conservative side here rather than Labours (bit like LRM!!)

Glad he's gone on the record about what Lloyd did

PomegranateOfPersephone · 23/01/2023 18:50

ResisterRex · 23/01/2023 18:24

Thank you 😊

ResisterRex · 23/01/2023 18:32

Also seen this but not the reply:

twitter.com/paulbristow79/status/1617571596302012416?s=46&t=IoZ4lpVcKK5m2R_kbJSarw

ResisterRex · 23/01/2023 18:24

Pomegranate it's from here:

twitter.com/jamesesses/status/1617104167511724032?s=46&t=QUe5VSCuiAE4k_cxMoc5Xg

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 18:23

PomegranateOfPersephone · 23/01/2023 18:14

What is this from Arabella?

from this postt yesterday

ResisterRex · Yesterday 19:06

It's this the thing LRM had a hand in writing its the last link in Rexs post

ifm-sei.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/RR-English.compressed.pdf"

PomegranateOfPersephone · 23/01/2023 18:14

ArabellaScott · 23/01/2023 14:38

'How to overcome resistance'

What is this from Arabella?

nilsmousehammer · 23/01/2023 14:55

Do things at an overnight camp - quite clearly to limit the capacity of parents interfering, or their children sharing information the presenter might find inconvenient.

Fgs. I seriously wonder how far this is going to have to go before enough people wake up.

ArabellaScott · 23/01/2023 14:38

'How to overcome resistance'

Miriam Cates abuse in HoC by Lloyd Russell-Moyle
Miriam Cates abuse in HoC by Lloyd Russell-Moyle
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ArabellaScott · 23/01/2023 14:37
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Blort · 23/01/2023 14:32

The fact that he's put his latest excuse out this morning means the story isnt going away. Well done everyone.

Needmoresleep · 23/01/2023 12:57

Boiled, some people seem to have gained status as a special class who cannot be questioned.

Many many years ago I was working abroad and used to come into contact with groups of MPs on ‘fact finding’ missions. It was effectively a jolly, and not helped by the fact that the stop on the tour was Bangkok.

Some MPs were good. Others were awful. This was in the days when safe Labour seats were allocated, almost as retirement jobs, to loyal trade unionists and the calibre of some was suspect. I got on well with one Tory MP who enlisted my help. The whips had charged him to keep an eye on one of his colleagues who was a well known alcoholic. What could have been dull formal occasions took on a farce like quality as we worked together to steer our jovial drunk through them.

He too was a dinosaur. The sort of upper class type for whom being selected to a seat was a mere formality. Things have changed for both parties, but the system is still throwing up duffers. The Tories have their share of time servers and worse, perhaps because their membership is so unrepresentative. (The typical Tory member is white, male, aged 57.) Whilst ‘democracy’ in the greens and Labour seems so time consuming that it will be difficult for sensible person with a busy life (job, family etc) to engage. Bits of Labour seem like a branch of student politics and the Momentum grip on some local parties is evident.

Thank goodness for the Rosies and Miriams. I am happy for the parties to disagree about economic policies. I do want a solid core of MPs who have common decency, an ability to think for themselves, empathy, and some real world experience.

I increasingly think the solution is for women like ourselves to engage in party politics. Whatever party. To try and ensure that we get the representatives we need.

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 11:49

I just don't understand how intelligent adults who in the main should have some knowledge of safeguarding, or having children, can read a document like this and go "yeah that's fine...But there's a spelling mistake on page 6, otherwise it's good to go to the printers".

ScrollingLeaves · 23/01/2023 11:44

It is literally/bodily teaching ‘we have no natural boundaries here’ ….. ‘and now we are going to talk about sex and gender’.

That space we leave between ourselves and others by instinct is so important.

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 11:37

@Datun I only went to that page as the title caught my eye on the index page and the red bunting immediately went up.

I disagree with These sorts of things in adult training sessions, and I'm a very very strong woman and even I had issues standing my ground on not taking part in These sort of trust exercises. I mean I always won because no one touches the beetle.

But young kids. It's fucking sick. It's the first step to, "well you don't mind your friends touching your body this is no different, trust me it will feel nice, and I'll give you a chocolate bar after". as the grown man sticks his hand down the young child pants

ResisterRex · 23/01/2023 11:36

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 11:29

He's back on Twitter spouting his lies👇

He's talking Complete bollocks of course

The "explanation" lacks credibility.

FrancescaContini · 23/01/2023 11:34

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 11:18

I think i want to throw up

Page 33 three little trusting games.

Let's get the young children used to lots of people touching them all over.

And i know they stick a no means no at the end but how many children in class at 8 years old when faced with their teacher and their classmates all taking part will have the strength to say no?

At some point I'll build up the courage to read the whole thing properly rather than just flicking through but I'm not there yet!

Where does one start with these “trusting games”?

For starters, talking to 8+ about “sensitive issues of gender and sexuality” is wholly inappropriate.

I can’t get beyond that as it makes me angry. Grooming in plain sight.

Datun · 23/01/2023 11:31

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 11:18

I think i want to throw up

Page 33 three little trusting games.

Let's get the young children used to lots of people touching them all over.

And i know they stick a no means no at the end but how many children in class at 8 years old when faced with their teacher and their classmates all taking part will have the strength to say no?

At some point I'll build up the courage to read the whole thing properly rather than just flicking through but I'm not there yet!

What!!!

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 11:29

He's back on Twitter spouting his lies👇

He's talking Complete bollocks of course

Miriam Cates abuse in HoC by Lloyd Russell-Moyle
SinnerBoy · 23/01/2023 11:28

That's just about unbelievable.

TheClogLady · 23/01/2023 11:21

Holy Moyley!

Between the ‘teach all kids about auto erotic asphyxiation’ and THIS DOCUMENT - surely the police, let alone Labour, need a look at his hard drive?

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 11:18

FrancescaContini · 23/01/2023 04:44

Thank you for these links. The third link, to the rainbowed document, is eye opening. The paragraph on “children and sexuality” is very concerning. I wouldn’t want any adult using this “guidance” within a thousand miles of my child.

I think i want to throw up

Page 33 three little trusting games.

Let's get the young children used to lots of people touching them all over.

And i know they stick a no means no at the end but how many children in class at 8 years old when faced with their teacher and their classmates all taking part will have the strength to say no?

At some point I'll build up the courage to read the whole thing properly rather than just flicking through but I'm not there yet!

Miriam Cates abuse in HoC by Lloyd Russell-Moyle
nilsmousehammer · 23/01/2023 11:18

Apollo441 · 23/01/2023 10:34

Which views of hers were 'abhorrent'? The only abhorrent thing i could see was his behaviour. He wouldn't have crossed the floor and done that to a male MP.

No, he wouldn't.

Because we all know, from the life experience we all garner, that if a male tries it on with another male like that - which is in part sexual aggression and using it with intent to intimidate - there's a good chance the male will react by punching him in the face.

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