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Miriam Cates abuse in HoC by Lloyd Russell-Moyle

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ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 12:50

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I thought MPs were bound by some standards of behaviour?

Yesterday the leader of the SNP at WM called his peers 'rabid gammon', which was shocking, but what I found more disturbing was Llloyd Russell-Moyle's verbal attack on Miriam Cates (clip above).

I actually found his behaviour frightening and alarming, and can't imagine how it must feel to have that venom directed at you by a colleague - let alone the slanderous accusations made.

Is it possible to make a complaint to the Labour Party about his behaviour?

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Boiledbeetle · 01/02/2023 23:37

Spiked article on RLM

www.spiked-online.com/2023/02/01/the-gender-zealotry-of-lloyd-russell-moyle/

SinnerBoy · 27/01/2023 14:46

Great, I'd like to see what linguistic gymnastics they go through, to portray him as the victim.

MorvenOfMalvern · 27/01/2023 13:29

Thank you @jhgfds

Boiledbeetle · 27/01/2023 13:26

@jhgfds 🌹

jhgfds · 27/01/2023 13:24

I'm a constituent and have just submitted a complaint - will let you know what response I get. Really unnacceptable and nasty behaviour.

Boiledbeetle · 27/01/2023 10:35

SinnerBoy · 27/01/2023 10:21

I had a response right away, that as I wasn't the victim, they wouldn't be keeping me updated.

Just looked I've had that one as well.

Boiledbeetle · 27/01/2023 10:30

MorvenOfMalvern · 27/01/2023 09:07

Has anyone had any response at all to their complaints about this?

I emailed everyone involved, completed the formal complaint form, and emailed my own MP (Tory) but have not received a single thing.

How can labour appear transparent of that complaints for thing has no follow up? I saw loads of people on here and twitter saying they'd done similar and yet still not a peep from the party.

So far I've had

Hello,

Thank you for your for your email to Lloyd. Due to strict parliamentary protocol Lloyd is unable to reply to emails from those who are not his constituents. Please can you provide your full address so we can confirm you are a constituent?

Kind regards,

Hannah Gorton

Policy and Constituency Caseworker to Lloyd RUSSELL-MOYLE MP
For Brighton Kemptown and Peacehaven

reply from me: it's OK i didn't want a reply I just wanted to tell him how atrocious his behaviour was etc and then repeated my letter.

MorvenOfMalvern · 27/01/2023 10:24

SinnerBoy · 27/01/2023 10:21

I had a response right away, that as I wasn't the victim, they wouldn't be keeping me updated.

I got that from the formal form. But as they've also not issued a statement it's now making me wonder whether these have been logged in anyway and whether that is something they would have to log. I.e "we received x number of complaints" as i have seen so many people share the link and say they've filled it in, it would be sure to need some investigation?

But I've had no reply to any of the emails I sent either.

SinnerBoy · 27/01/2023 10:22

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · Today 08:57

When is he going to apologise properly?

I don't think that Satan needs to turn the heating up just yet.

SinnerBoy · 27/01/2023 10:21

I had a response right away, that as I wasn't the victim, they wouldn't be keeping me updated.

nilsmousehammer · 27/01/2023 09:13

No response so far, and that's unusual for my MP.

MorvenOfMalvern · 27/01/2023 09:07

Has anyone had any response at all to their complaints about this?

I emailed everyone involved, completed the formal complaint form, and emailed my own MP (Tory) but have not received a single thing.

How can labour appear transparent of that complaints for thing has no follow up? I saw loads of people on here and twitter saying they'd done similar and yet still not a peep from the party.

Waitwhat23 · 27/01/2023 08:59

Boiledbeetle · 27/01/2023 01:54

Thing is had Miriam shouted, our even shown any negative emotion, whilst telling about the man in the toilets, I don't think Lloyd would have accepted her saying her emotions were because she was being passionate about the situation.Lloyd would say she was putting it on to elicit sympathy

Or called her hysterical.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 27/01/2023 08:57

When is he going to apologise properly?

mach2 · 27/01/2023 06:34

how to "choke" safely

You first, Lloyd.

Slobbet · 27/01/2023 04:17

MrsOvertonsWindow · 18/01/2023 13:17

Wasn't it Lloyd Russell-Moyle who argued that teachers should be teaching children in SRE lessons how to "choke" safely? Which really throws a grim light on his lack of understanding of child safeguarding, safety and wellbeing. (along with a skewed insight into 'age appropriate" behaviour).

Total weirdo, clearly no idea about age appropriate work and safeguarding

Boiledbeetle · 27/01/2023 01:54

Thing is had Miriam shouted, our even shown any negative emotion, whilst telling about the man in the toilets, I don't think Lloyd would have accepted her saying her emotions were because she was being passionate about the situation.Lloyd would say she was putting it on to elicit sympathy

FrancescaContini · 27/01/2023 01:50

FigRollsAlly · 26/01/2023 21:10

He will probably repeat his pathetic excuse about how “passionate” he is about this subject. I noticed years ago at work how bullying men would be excused for getting into a nasty rage because they were supposedly passionate about whatever their job was.

It’s interesting that this odious man used the word “passionate” to refer to how the issue makes him feel because until not very long ago, men who murdered their wives or girlfriends were often portrayed as having killed them in a “crime / fit of passion”.

Nothing says “passionate” more than murderous rage, eh?

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 26/01/2023 22:18

Yes. Ask him and expect an answer that doesn’t answer anything. Expect to be educated, patronised and gaslighted. That is to be expected.

FigRollsAlly · 26/01/2023 21:10

He will probably repeat his pathetic excuse about how “passionate” he is about this subject. I noticed years ago at work how bullying men would be excused for getting into a nasty rage because they were supposedly passionate about whatever their job was.

Tallisker · 26/01/2023 20:50

Boiled absolutely

Boiledbeetle · 26/01/2023 20:38

@ethermint if you'd be do kind as it'd be fascinated to see how he responds...

also tell him that you don't want to hear one word about LGBT+ .

Your complaint is wholly about your male MP and his appalling behaviour towards a woman.

The fact that he's is gay, or that he was, wrongy thinking Miriam was transphobic is irrelevant to your complaint.

You witnessed a man abuse a woman in parliament on tv. He needs to explain that misogyny and violence.

The LGBT+ has no place in his answer.

You are holding him personally as a man abusing a woman to account not his ideology.

Boiledbeetle · 26/01/2023 20:29

ethermint · 26/01/2023 17:50

just saw this and was pretty shocked at the hatred he showed and the rage in his face as he spoke to that poor female MP. he's my MP, always voted labour before because in my constituency they stood a chance of getting in but I am now doubtful that I can vote for him again unfortunately. Anything I can do as a constituent?

Yes complain to him directly and ask what he thought he was doing and that his apology and explanations aren't sufficient.

He will only respond to constituents

JacquelinePot · 26/01/2023 20:19

Workerbeep · 24/01/2023 08:13

Aasmah Mir was interviewing Labour’s David Lammy this morning and at the end of the interview asked him about the abuse given to Rosie Duffield and Miriam Coates in the House of Commons and in particular from Russell Lloyd-Moyles. I think it about 7:40/7:45.

The same David Lammy who was involved in the original GRA debates?

https://mobile.twitter.com/HairyLeggdHarpy/status/1177699186361458688?cxt=HHwWgIC79fLKg9ggAAAA

ethermint · 26/01/2023 17:50

just saw this and was pretty shocked at the hatred he showed and the rage in his face as he spoke to that poor female MP. he's my MP, always voted labour before because in my constituency they stood a chance of getting in but I am now doubtful that I can vote for him again unfortunately. Anything I can do as a constituent?