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Miriam Cates abuse in HoC by Lloyd Russell-Moyle

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ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 12:50

twitter.com/MPIainDS/status/1615658364146487297

I thought MPs were bound by some standards of behaviour?

Yesterday the leader of the SNP at WM called his peers 'rabid gammon', which was shocking, but what I found more disturbing was Llloyd Russell-Moyle's verbal attack on Miriam Cates (clip above).

I actually found his behaviour frightening and alarming, and can't imagine how it must feel to have that venom directed at you by a colleague - let alone the slanderous accusations made.

Is it possible to make a complaint to the Labour Party about his behaviour?

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Lottapianos · 18/01/2023 14:20

'Shelagh Fogarty is talking about this on LBC now.'

Listening now. Have heard her on this topic before - she's on top of the issue, knows her stuff, and is very fair to everyone who phones in

AdamRyan · 18/01/2023 14:09

He is playing to twitter not replying to her. Notice he didn't include her speech in his video. He just wants to show himself crusading against transphobia. Yuck.

SinnerBoy · 18/01/2023 14:08

RoyalCorgi · Today 13:42

Same guy accused JK Rowling of weaponising her trauma.

And then mocked Miriam Cates, because she was frightened by a big man in a dress, staring at her, in the toilets. Starmer and Labour in general need to realise that disgusting behaviour like that is going to haemorrhage votes from them.

endofagain · 18/01/2023 14:05

Shelagh Fogarty is talking about this on LBC now.

EndlessTea · 18/01/2023 13:59

I find him frightening. He really despises women. Men who despise women are dangerous to women. I can’t bear to see his face. Disturbing individual.

Mollyollydolly · 18/01/2023 13:54

He's a scary man, a vile man. He genuinely disturbs me, so many anger issues. I suspect Starmer would like to get rid, he really is a vile excuse of a human being. Puts me off ever voting Labour again while he remains in the party.

Lottapianos · 18/01/2023 13:52

'Not only is he a nasty, aggressive misogynist, he's terrifyingly dim. It's rarely a winning combination'.

He is, and hugely self righteous with it. Scary combination

FrancescaContini · 18/01/2023 13:47

MrsOvertonsWindow · 18/01/2023 13:17

Wasn't it Lloyd Russell-Moyle who argued that teachers should be teaching children in SRE lessons how to "choke" safely? Which really throws a grim light on his lack of understanding of child safeguarding, safety and wellbeing. (along with a skewed insight into 'age appropriate" behaviour).

Fucksake 😡

FrancescaContini · 18/01/2023 13:46

I could almost feel the specks of his angry spittle coming through my screen 🤮

RoyalCorgi · 18/01/2023 13:42

Same guy accused JK Rowling of weaponising her trauma.

Not only is he a nasty, aggressive misogynist, he's terrifyingly dim. It's rarely a winning combination.

blibblibs · 18/01/2023 13:30

She's my local MP. I've written to her a few time to complain about the Tory party but I'm off now to email some praise.

DaisyCornflowerBlue · 18/01/2023 13:29

iWork with the public. I find the stupidest are the loudest and most angry.

He should apologise (he won't) and he should have been kicked out (he wasn't).

YetAnotherSpartacus · 18/01/2023 13:29

'We will fight them in the streets' - is that not straightforward incitement?!

I thought it referred to protest but it reminded me a little of a hyped up version of Jim Hacker coming over all Churchillian.

ShamedBySiri · 18/01/2023 13:28

He has a long history of misogyny.
Two years ago he was very unpleasant to Selina Scott. Sadly this is just a voice recording because I remember how red in the face furious he was at the time.

PronounssheRa · 18/01/2023 13:27

IcakethereforeIam · 18/01/2023 13:13

It was his aid who shouted at a baby, wasn't it?

I've seen suggestions to address complaints to the Labour Party chief whip. Won't his local party also have a committee? Perhaps them?

Yes it was his staffer who yelled at a baby, calling it a fascist.

But I guess LRM leads by example 🤷‍♀️

ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 13:26

'We will fight them in the streets' - is that not straightforward incitement?!

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ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 13:25

WTF:

This man doesn't seem well.

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ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 13:23

Yes. And also suggested that he knew where Tory voters lived in a vaguely threatening manner.

'“I do not think it is an exaggeration when we say the Conservatives have conspired to murder and let die British citizens,” he reportedly said. “That is what they have done and that is what they will continue to do.”

The tirade, made on a video seen by the Mail on Sunday, also reportedly saw the Brighton Kemptown MP vow to “rout out” Tories in his constituency, adding: “We know where they live.”'

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/lloyd-russell-moyle-resign-tories-murder-comments-a4424416.html

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Lottapianos · 18/01/2023 13:22

Gosh, her speech was excellent. Every word was spot on

'Wasn't it Lloyd Russell-Moyle who argued that teachers should be teaching children in SRE lessons how to "choke" safely?'

Jesus Christ

RoyalCorgi · 18/01/2023 13:19

MrsOvertonsWindow · 18/01/2023 13:17

Wasn't it Lloyd Russell-Moyle who argued that teachers should be teaching children in SRE lessons how to "choke" safely? Which really throws a grim light on his lack of understanding of child safeguarding, safety and wellbeing. (along with a skewed insight into 'age appropriate" behaviour).

The very same.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 18/01/2023 13:17

Wasn't it Lloyd Russell-Moyle who argued that teachers should be teaching children in SRE lessons how to "choke" safely? Which really throws a grim light on his lack of understanding of child safeguarding, safety and wellbeing. (along with a skewed insight into 'age appropriate" behaviour).

ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 13:16

IcakethereforeIam · 18/01/2023 13:13

It was his aid who shouted at a baby, wasn't it?

I've seen suggestions to address complaints to the Labour Party chief whip. Won't his local party also have a committee? Perhaps them?

Aha, thanks.

This is the Labour chief whip.

members.parliament.uk/member/529/contact

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Brefugee · 18/01/2023 13:15

he is too stupid, as are many people involved in these discussions.

At no time did she link trans people with child abusers.
She linked abusers with using any means they can to get access to women and children.
In fact, she didn't mention trans people at all (or hardly at all) and the people who listened to what she said and thought immediately that she was talking about trans people being abusers are dangerously thick.

ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 13:14

SpideyCraw · 18/01/2023 13:13

I’m a Labour Party member, is it worth complaining to them?

I would say so, yes. I had a look at their complaints process but it seemed to be more for members than just the general public.

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IcakethereforeIam · 18/01/2023 13:13

It was his aid who shouted at a baby, wasn't it?

I've seen suggestions to address complaints to the Labour Party chief whip. Won't his local party also have a committee? Perhaps them?