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Miriam Cates abuse in HoC by Lloyd Russell-Moyle

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ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 12:50

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I thought MPs were bound by some standards of behaviour?

Yesterday the leader of the SNP at WM called his peers 'rabid gammon', which was shocking, but what I found more disturbing was Llloyd Russell-Moyle's verbal attack on Miriam Cates (clip above).

I actually found his behaviour frightening and alarming, and can't imagine how it must feel to have that venom directed at you by a colleague - let alone the slanderous accusations made.

Is it possible to make a complaint to the Labour Party about his behaviour?

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Datun · 18/01/2023 17:04

Boiledbeetle · 18/01/2023 16:43

The problem with his response in the clip, for him, is that he gave a wonderful live example of exactly what women are afraid of. And as we keep saying there is nothing to stop a man with his attitude and temper deciding to utter the magic words and then go and use the women's toilets.

Exactly. He thinks women are disgusting when they are talking really quite rationally and calmly about the erosion of their rights. He's exactly the sort of person who would be incredibly intimidating in a female only space.

Never mind being a fucking predator. Bullying, intimidating men are two a penny.

This awful man has had to apologise twice! He can't keep control of his mouth.

Reason?

He likes it. He likes getting angry.

ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 16:50

He was not listening.

He definitely wasn't responding to Miriam's speech. So where did all the emotion come from? The 'passion' seems to me to be hatred, pure and simple.

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KohlaParasaurus · 18/01/2023 16:44

Even if the "passion" was genuine, and I am sure it was nothing of the sort, it was calculated aggression from an experienced aggressor, we could do without having important decisions made by men whose emotional regulation hasn't developed beyond the level of a toddler.

Boiledbeetle · 18/01/2023 16:43

The problem with his response in the clip, for him, is that he gave a wonderful live example of exactly what women are afraid of. And as we keep saying there is nothing to stop a man with his attitude and temper deciding to utter the magic words and then go and use the women's toilets.

ScrollingLeaves · 18/01/2023 16:38

ArabellaScott · Today 13:03
Ah, he is so proud of his horrible performance he has shared it on his Twitter. Like a toddler showing you the potty:

twitter.com/lloyd_rm/status/1615411768532271106?cxt=HHwWhIDQ1bqcjOssAAAA

I just watched this. He needed to be sent out.

M did not say that transwomen would harm children after getting a GRC.

He was not listening.

He was a stupid person, not worthy of his job, having a tantrum.

The point is that any dangerous person who wants access to children could use a GRC to hide their past and get access more easily. It is irrelevant whether they are ‘truly’ trans or not.

EndlessTea · 18/01/2023 16:37

ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 15:43

Can you imagine being his constituent? Can you imagine being a female constituent? A female constituent with views he disagrees with?

I know. It is horrific. I would be far too scared to write or go to his surgery. What would be the point?

Boiledbeetle · 18/01/2023 16:33

IcakethereforeIam · 18/01/2023 16:30

Typical abusers excuse.

Yes very I'm sorry i hit you but you made me do it

ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 16:31

'an emotional debate' - Miriam was completely calm and measured.

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ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 16:30

It really is, Icake.

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IcakethereforeIam · 18/01/2023 16:30

Typical abusers excuse.

DerekFaker · 18/01/2023 16:27

You see, the problem is he's just too passionate.

twitter.com/lloyd_rm/status/1615711628489822210?t=typA7-Zs5t5nQEaW70_DUQ&s=19

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ScrollingLeaves · 18/01/2023 16:24

I have just listened. Thank you for posting that.

Imagine standing up after someone’s speech and saying ‘Goodness me…. that’s one of the worst speeches …’

I feel very angry on her behalf.

Of course his recourse to bullying was precisely because her speech was so good and he knows he cannot adequately rebut it. What a crude, rude idiot.

Have people here seen the petition to Update the Equality Act to make clear that sex means biological sex and not sex as modified by a gender recognition certificate? If not, here it is in case you’d like to sign:
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

Kucinghitam · 18/01/2023 15:50

LRM is yet another of the seemingly limitless supply of Right-Side-Of-History fanatics, who just know that because they've self-identified as being Good People, therefore by definition anything and everything they do (aggression, lies, cruelty, threats...) must be Good.

I find such zealots frightening, and that would be regardless of what their zealotry is in aid of.

StellaAndCrow · 18/01/2023 15:49

SinnerBoy yes, and that's what he's prepared to be like not just in public, but in his workplace, knowing he's being televised. I wouldn't like to think what he might be like without those constraints.

SinnerBoy · 18/01/2023 15:47

ArabellaScott · Today 15:43

Can you imagine being his constituent? Can you imagine being a female constituent? A female constituent with views he disagrees with?

It's horrifying, isn't it? They are supposed to be diplomatic with constituents, be they racists or whatever.

StellaAndCrow · 18/01/2023 15:45

Yes, and fits with his previous behaviour e.g. saying JKR "exploited" her sexual abuse. As Datun said at the time,
"Wanting sex segregation because you've been sexually assaulted is exploitation of your own assault???
Dear God. Some men really do consider that women are less than shit on their shoe, don't they.
He is actually viewing J. K. Rowling's sexual assault as nothing more than an inconvenience to him."

CharlieParley · 18/01/2023 15:44

Since when is the view that women and children need safeguarding from predatory men an abhorrent one?

ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 15:43

EndlessTea · 18/01/2023 13:59

I find him frightening. He really despises women. Men who despise women are dangerous to women. I can’t bear to see his face. Disturbing individual.

Can you imagine being his constituent? Can you imagine being a female constituent? A female constituent with views he disagrees with?

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ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 15:42

It's not 'tone' to scream - literally scream, I'm not being hyperbolic - at a woman, jab your finger at her. That's bullying, abusive aggression.

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ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 15:40

He just couldn't help himself.

He lost control.

He's an abusive misogynist and everyone can see it.

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PronounssheRa · 18/01/2023 15:39

Sorry, not sorry 🙄

SinnerBoy · 18/01/2023 15:23

How can that be classed as an apology? He said that he stands by his abuse and lies.

StellaAndCrow · 18/01/2023 15:22

Have you seen his shit "apology" on Twitter? Apparently he "failed to control [his] passion".
mobile.twitter.com/lloyd_rm/status/1615711628489822210

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endofagain · 18/01/2023 15:00

Goodness. The man currently lecturing Shelagh atm is lying with every word he speaks. She didn't challenge anything.

SirVixofVixHall · 18/01/2023 14:25

PronounssheRa · 18/01/2023 13:27

Yes it was his staffer who yelled at a baby, calling it a fascist.

But I guess LRM leads by example 🤷‍♀️

A fascist baby ? Was it wearing a little black shirt ?