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Miriam Cates abuse in HoC by Lloyd Russell-Moyle

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ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 12:50

twitter.com/MPIainDS/status/1615658364146487297

I thought MPs were bound by some standards of behaviour?

Yesterday the leader of the SNP at WM called his peers 'rabid gammon', which was shocking, but what I found more disturbing was Llloyd Russell-Moyle's verbal attack on Miriam Cates (clip above).

I actually found his behaviour frightening and alarming, and can't imagine how it must feel to have that venom directed at you by a colleague - let alone the slanderous accusations made.

Is it possible to make a complaint to the Labour Party about his behaviour?

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BirmaBrite · 18/01/2023 20:17

How long did he speak for ? the link to his twitter account only appears to be a few seconds long ?

IcakethereforeIam · 18/01/2023 20:02

I'm not 100% sure (cos Wikipedia Blush) but he came out as HIV+, so he may be homosexual. I think it's well controlled with the appropriate medication.

dapsnotplimsolls · 18/01/2023 19:57
  1. His poor mother
  2. I wonder if he's ever had a partner who's a transman?
YumiSutzuki · 18/01/2023 19:47

He really is an utter raving misognyist, he's one of those woman haters that does not even realise he has to hide it. He really is quite hysterical in his woman hating.
When the only women you care about are men maybe you need to examine your prejudices.
Whenever I question how could I leave a lifetime on the left, I just think of Lloyd, and breath a sigh of relief in the knowledge that I am indeed on the right side of history.

yasnayapolyana · 18/01/2023 19:39

Thanks for the link. Email sent to Labour Chief Whip's office. Hope they get bombarded. The female speaker at the time seemed to hardly know how to deal with his behaviour.

EpicChaos · 18/01/2023 19:34

Well he rather proved her point about nasty men!
As for there being links between trans and sex offenders, has he never heard of David Challoner, or chris chan to name but two?!

Cheekymaw · 18/01/2023 19:20

Ex Labour member of many years here. Desperate to get the Tories out but by God the likes of that horrible wee gnaff Lloyd makes it hard to vote Labour!!! What a nasty piece of work! Miriam was spot on completely! Has Lloyd any care whatsoever for the safeguarding of women and children? I doubt it. He makes my flesh crawl. So much anger. You could complain to the Labour Party but I doubt anything would get done . Maybe their Chief Whip ?
Honestly watching these misogynist politicians and their handmaidens is so depressing.

SinnerBoy · 18/01/2023 19:06

Transparent2 · Today 17:33

He seems rather hard of understanding. Did he not listen to Miriam Cates, or did he not take any notice of what she actually said?

I think he understood, but he Has A Position and thinks he's in the right. He doesn't give a damn about the substance of her speech, he just wanted to pretend to have an excuse to get angry and hurl abuse, to show how righteous he is and how hateful she is.

Hopefully, people previously barely aware of the issue may see the footage and think twice about #BeKind

He's an arrogant, bossy little gobshite who shouldn't be in charge of a fucking shoeshine stand.

GailBlancheViola · 18/01/2023 19:03

ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 15:40

He just couldn't help himself.

He lost control.

He's an abusive misogynist and everyone can see it.

It' enlightening isn't it just how many men were so very angry at the thought of women and children being safeguarded, women saying we don't want men in our spaces, any men whether they think they are a woman or not, women saying 'No', women, refusing to give consent to be props for males.

If their behaviour yesterday, especially Lloyd's, doesn't wake people up to what is behind this agenda of 'trans rights' and that it is a smoke screen for Men's Rights, a weapon to be used to remove rights from women and use and abuse them as pawns nothing will.

Those men proved conclusively yesterday the visceral hatred they have for women.

BettyFilous · 18/01/2023 18:58

I just showed DH LR-M’s non apology. He laughed and said it could be summarised as “for anyone who missed my rant yesterday, here it is again. Sorry, not sorry.” DH is right. LR-M basically repeats his same crap arguments and doubles down.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/01/2023 18:54

He has a long history of misogyny.
Two years ago he was very unpleasant to Selina Scott. Sadly this is just a voice recording because I remember how red in the face furious he was at the time.

Thanks, I'd forgotten how much of a plum he was in that interview.

Suzi89 · 18/01/2023 18:49

His “apology” is disgusting, he did not apologise to Miriam he apologised to the Speaker and that was it.

GettingMarriedAgain · 18/01/2023 18:35

Boiledbeetle · 18/01/2023 16:43

The problem with his response in the clip, for him, is that he gave a wonderful live example of exactly what women are afraid of. And as we keep saying there is nothing to stop a man with his attitude and temper deciding to utter the magic words and then go and use the women's toilets.

I couldn’t agree with this more. A perfect demonstration of what we might face when certain men feel entitled to enter women only spaces.

Datun · 18/01/2023 18:33

They're so fucking smug and pleased with themselves, and then here come these evil bitches with their 'needs' and 'rights' and it's all far too much hard work. And one millimetre below the surface is a load of boiling hot steaming misogyny

In this case, it looks to me like he actually wants women to object.

He's found a nice little, arousing reason to yell at them. And as long as even one fucking loser in the distance, beyond the horizon, thinks it's the right side of history, he's on itttt.

When this all goes down the pan, and it will, he'll find another reason to yell at women.

ChristinaXYZ · 18/01/2023 18:02

ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 15:42

It's not 'tone' to scream - literally scream, I'm not being hyperbolic - at a woman, jab your finger at her. That's bullying, abusive aggression.

Spot on - the weak, victim-blaming apology just adds the sense of his bullying behaviour.

I think we should complain anyway we can. To Starmer, to the Labour chief whip and in writing to the Speaker. I don't know why he was allowed to stay in the chamber. I also thing the babyish face pulling by Charlotte Nichols is also extremely disrespectful. twitter.com/Spacecrafting76/status/1615377958939533312

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Mollyollydolly · 18/01/2023 17:35

Anyone watching 'Happy Valley" Just realised the creep reminds me of the teacher. I despise LRM and he's got a job for life down there in Brighton hasn't he?

Transparent2 · 18/01/2023 17:33

ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 13:03

Ah, he is so proud of his horrible performance he has shared it on his Twitter. Like a toddler showing you the potty:

twitter.com/lloyd_rm/status/1615411768532271106?cxt=HHwWhIDQ1bqcjOssAAAA

He seems rather hard of understanding. Did he not listen to Miriam Cates, or did he not take any notice of what she actually said?

Lottapianos · 18/01/2023 17:31

Do you know (on a roll now), I am fucking SICK of these weird little men with their big fat hard ons for themselves and how woke and liberal and progressive they are. And how 'kind' and 'empathetic' and marvellous they are. They're so fucking smug and pleased with themselves, and then here come these evil bitches with their 'needs' and 'rights' and it's all far too much hard work. And one millimetre below the surface is a load of boiling hot steaming misogyny

They are only interested in themselves, and they can all fuck off.

ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 17:28

'I'm just a passionate guy, I can't help myself, I get carried away'

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Blort · 18/01/2023 17:27

No wonder hes so keen on vociferously defending men.

ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 17:27

Any woman that says his behaviour is scary is going to be accused of something, isn't she?

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Blort · 18/01/2023 17:27

He got carried away, he cares so much - he couldnt help his temper.

Right out of the abuser's handbook.

Lottapianos · 18/01/2023 17:25

'And as we keep saying there is nothing to stop a man with his attitude and temper deciding to utter the magic words and then go and use the women's toilets.'

Right. Hes never going to manage to join those dots though, is he? What a weird and scary person he is

StellaOlivetti · 18/01/2023 17:14

I’ve complained.

Datun · 18/01/2023 17:11

StellaAndCrow · 18/01/2023 15:45

Yes, and fits with his previous behaviour e.g. saying JKR "exploited" her sexual abuse. As Datun said at the time,
"Wanting sex segregation because you've been sexually assaulted is exploitation of your own assault???
Dear God. Some men really do consider that women are less than shit on their shoe, don't they.
He is actually viewing J. K. Rowling's sexual assault as nothing more than an inconvenience to him."

Cripes, I was fuming then, and I'm fuming now!

There really is nothing more horrifying than seeing a man who quite genuinely fails to see women in any light other than how he can utilise them and their lives.

A woman's assault has no dimension, other than the one that will affect him, and in that case, inconveniently. What was she thinking having an experience that would interfere with his entitlement!

He is not interested in addressing what Miriam Cates had to say. He wants to use what she said to goad himself into fury because he thinks, I don't know what? It makes him looks self-righteous? Crusading?

Nah. He looks like a common or garden sexist wanker.