Miriam Cates abuse in HoC by Lloyd Russell-Moyle

I think the thing that probably really got to him was when she said the law should be based on fact !

Wow I know it's not fully the point of the thread but I'm not familiar with Miriam Cates at all but she was fabulous. Straight to the point and clear as day. What a legend.

Yes. Fascist baby screamer was one of this MP’s staff.

It was little surprise to discover that Carly-May Kavanagh was Russell-Moyle’s staff.

Omg was that his Staffer? The "fascist baby" woman? Explains it all! Jeez how do these people get the jobs /get elected ?? What a state we are in ! Honestly so bloody depressing! Russell-Moyle's always looks like he is going to blow a fuse! So much hate and anger ! Whereas Miriam Cates and Rosie Duffield are calm and thoughtfully discussing the issues.
I've wrote off to the Chief Lab Whip tonight as well. A fiver that nothing will happen to him but worth a try.

I would advise against writing to him. If you recall, one woman and Labour party member who Russell-Moyle employed as a caseworker went on to briefly gain national notoriety for calling a baby a fascist at the Standing For Women Meeting in Brighton. Then, it was alleged she had a history of privately contacting GC women and women's rights campaigners to send them abusive messages.

Russell-Moyle cannot be reasoned with, he cannot be negotiated with, and I would not trust any of his team with identifying information. The only path forward is to vote him out, or persuade the Labour party to replace him as candidate next election.

I used to know a dominatix in his neck of the woods actually. Nice woman.

OMG I just wanted to say the same. 100% Dalek.

Thank you

Did they actually write that? What idiots they are.

If they don't believe women are wary of men in their spaces, what the fuck do they think this entire issue is all about????

Written to the Chief Whip, I think it's important. So many parallels with the anti-semitism stuff, sections of Labour are utterly toxic to women. LRM makes my flesh crawl.

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I used to live down the road from a dominatrices' (a few worked there) dungeon. It was entirely unmarked. The punters/clients would have to ring the bell and wait to be let in.

I've never seen videos of this guy before, or him in the flesh, but the first thing that came to mind watching those videos was that he matches a type I'd seen waiting to be let in

It's almost too like he doth protest too much.
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I used to live down the road from a dominatrices' (a few worked there) dungeon. It was entirely unmarked. The punters/clients would have to ring the bell and wait to be let in.

I've never seen videos of this guy before, or him in the flesh, but the first thing that came to mind watching those videos was that he matches a type I'd seen waiting to be let in.

It's almost too like he doth protest too much.

Just to back up what Rosie said about how self-ID would mean that men would gain access to women’s spaces, the petition to update the Equality Act to make sure sex means biological sex, not sex as modified by a gender recognition certificate , might help.

If anyone who has not yet done so would like to sign:
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

It was vile. Frightening. The finger-pointing fury at a woman who dared to admit to being uneasy about encountering a man in a women's toilet. Where does that anger and contempt for women come from?

He didn't even explain why he thought the man Cates encountered was 'trans': he was presumably trans and thereby entitled to be in the ladies' simply by being there. For many men who have this fury against women, the word "transphobia" is just a replacement for the word "misandry". The men at Pink News excelled themselves today reporting on this man's bigotry (sorry, "Cates' awful bigotry"): her 'claim' that men are stronger than women is "a hateful narrative" that "is not based in actual science"; and "she failed to cite a scientific body or peer-reviewed study" to show that women are "wary of men in intimate spaces". This mad stuff is well and truly through the looking glass.

Replies off - what an unpleasant little man.

Selina Todd is still a professor at Oxford and involved with WPUK I think?

Laura Pidcock lost her seat at the 2019 election – otherwise, she would have made a much stronger candidate for Labour leader than either Rayner or Long-Bailey.

Miriam was fantastic, what courage to continue in that climate making all her points so concisely and sharing that personal story of the encounter with a man in a dress in the women’s toilets, it sounds absolutely terrifying.

When I hear this, I am hearing davros in Dr Who getting wound up to then scream ‘exterminate’!

Same energy.

His non apology is a sight to see.

And people wonder why the extremists who protest women speaking thoughts those extremists must never hear act the way they do.

I don't want to use the word "triggering" but I think the reason LRM's tirade has hit a nerve is because we've all experienced that man in our everyday life. That man who is so furious and whose contempt for women lies so close to the surface that it takes very little for it to emerge. I know seeing that frothing rage, in a workplace no less, I was reminded of road rage incidents - men furious that they are trapped behind a woman who won't speed and so start flashing their lights, honking and screaming abuse, cutting me up. Men who've had a few drinks and start an argument with the only women present and then turn very nasty when she won't back down. A man who threatened to punch me at a football match after my team had the temerity to beat his, and I was leaving the stadium. (He didn't do it to any of the male fans.)

I agree LRM's aggression is frightening, and more so, because he didn't just feel it was acceptable, but he was proud of it. Proud enough to retweet it so everyone would see. It didn't occur to him how ugly, aggressive, and threatening it looked because he was so high on his own supply of outrage at this witch who wouldn't just do as she was told and move aside and let him win.

The interview with Selina Todd is really chilling. I've never heard it before but you gather everything about him from his tone and the way he talks then. Really scary stuff.

She sounds amazing though. What happened to her? And the labour MP Pidcock? So many brave, prophetic women...

When is this from? How can these people have jobs? And jobs that impact all of us?

If anyone behaved like this within 100m of me I'd be terrified! We pay him?

Ben Bradshaw being widely named as the person who shouted "rubbish" when she listed single sex spaces and their importance...

Sorry DM link -

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11646735/amp/Labour-MP-Rosie-Duffield-heckled-defends-right-single-sex-spaces.html

It's incredibly revealing about the way some men think about women.

@RoyalCorgi exactly and those women who claim all men are sunshine and rainbows...this is the sort of man we keep telling you about!!

The worst thing about LRM is that he appears to be sincere. He is genuinely angry - not just angry, but furious to the point of incoherence - that women are saying no to men. He thinks it's completely reasonable of men to always get what they want, and completely unreasonable of women to deny it. You can hear it in his voice - he is literally incredulous that women are daring to say no. It's incredibly revealing about the way some men think about women.