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Rosie Duffield Support thread

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BlueBooh · 18/01/2023 10:29

I've searched everywhere for a thread about this amazing and brave MP, but couldn't find one.

Am I missing something? She supports the blocking of the new Scottish GR Bill and was cheered by her own MPs.

She seems an amazing and strong woman, wish she was my MP. I'm going to write and thank her.

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RoyalCorgi · 26/01/2023 14:30

Kevin Macguire on Piers Morgan saying what’s “wrong” with Rosie Duffield is her “tone”!

Rosie's tone? This would be the same mild-mannered Rosie who always speaks moderately and sensibly, despite enormous provocation?

Did Macguire have anything to say about Russell-Moyle's tone? Or was the shrieking, finger-wagging, puce-faced loon deemed to have comported himself acceptably?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/01/2023 14:26

I love Rosie. Owen Jones actually blocked me for supporting her.

Me too!

Abhannmor · 26/01/2023 14:22

I love Rosie. Owen Jones actually blocked me for supporting her. She did me such a favour ! Politically I'm way to her left but that's irrelevant in this context.

Same goes for the TRAs ; they have support left and right. Mathew Doyle is a Blairite yet Aron Bastani of Novara Media came to his defence over this. How sweet - because they hate each usually.

BlueBooh · 26/01/2023 14:06

Surely some worms are going to come out of the woodwork now! They must be able to see that the public aren't happy with TWAW, the Scottish prison debate bringing sunshine.

C'mon Labour MPs crawl out into the sun and maybe just maybe you will win the next election!

Support Rosie!!

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Sazzasez · 26/01/2023 13:57

It’s the delightful Avocado of Wrath on Twitter.

We’re gonna do the musical some day, I swear!

IcakethereforeIam · 26/01/2023 13:46

@Sazzasez Bravo

Sazzasez · 26/01/2023 13:44

Kevin Macguire on Piers Morgan saying what’s “wrong” with Rosie Duffield is her “tone”!

inspired the following (not by me: used by permission)

It’s not what she said, it’s the way that she said it
It’s not what she said, it’s the time that she said it
It’s not what she said it’s the fact that she said it
Women should shut up!

🎶

When he’s a rapist
Don’t be alarmed
Put him with women
Who cares if they’re harmed?

🎶

IwantToRetire · 26/01/2023 00:10

Its disgusting. Not only that it is happening but that the media are egging it on but allowing all these Starmer right or wrong followers, air time to basically publicly bully a woman.

Not sure how to help.

In the vague hope that JKR reads this forum (!!!!) please can you take Rosie for a nice day out to just enjoy herself.

I cant imagine going on with all this pile on happening.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 25/01/2023 22:53

Witch, witch, witch.

so many words. Such clear meaning

ResisterRex · 25/01/2023 22:27

Just had a look for the Piers Morgan thing and found this, with Carolyn Harris (Labour):

twitter.com/firstedition/status/1618372551717146624?s=46&t=ohPKT96RYNDGfHA2FKNOLg

It does seem like Rosie is - for all intents and purposes - isolated. Harris says: "Rosie says own thing, I hear another". Says she shouldn't be "throwing stones" at the Labour leadership. But no one will go on record and say actually yes or no, Rosie has or hasn't been offered even a meeting with Starmer.

And what exactly is the "support" she's been offered? Is it "support" of the type where you get "help" crafting your comms? Or any kind of "support" that comes with a whacking great subtext attached?

How does she stick it out?

Harris is also on the Women and Equalities Committee. The one that's obsessed with self-ID.

Mollyollydolly · 25/01/2023 21:53

Just flicking through the tv and found Rosie Duffield on TalkTV talking to Piers Morgan. It was very good. I believe it's repeated at 11pm if anyone wants to watch.

ResisterRex · 25/01/2023 11:18

William Hague on Duffield and Cates:

twitter.com/timesradio/status/1617848033340788737?s=46&t=DdxL-lFVnqwGT9wOimK_Rg

Violetparis · 25/01/2023 07:09

Jess Philips stood up publically for female jewish MPs when they recieved horrific abuse and rightly so. The only reason I think she doesn't do this for Rosie Duffield is because it damages Starmer. She didn't care when Corbyn was damaged as she wanted him out. So, she'll stand up to the abuse of female MPs when it's politically convenient, she's disingenous and a disapointment.

pattihews · 24/01/2023 22:31

I agree with the Times. She's a good MP, appreciated by her constituents. Labour needs more like her. Instead it's made her life hell. I find it very difficult to forgive and it's damaged my trust in my own Labour MP.

Ofcourseshecan · 24/01/2023 22:29

Rosie, I wish you were my MP, so I could vote Labour again. Today’s so-called Labour Party is a travesty and a disgrace to the memory of Clem Attlee and so many genuine Labour supporters. Thanks for your courage and your integrity.

ResisterRex · 24/01/2023 22:05

Comment piece in The Times:

"...she has been thrown to the wolves for daring to speak her mind on issues Labour prefers to pass over in silence...

...The truth is that Labour is hiding from a meaningful debate on trans issues. MPs appear too scared to express their views outside secret WhatsApp groups. No one wants to end up singled out and cast adrift like Duffield. Her treatment at the hands of the party is an indictment of its professed commitment to values such as decency and fairness."

Labour won’t speak up for MP Rosie Duffield silenced over gender reform

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/9922a9f2-9c26-11ed-b81d-ce538d806950?shareToken=e993b6c6b250c2b2b3c5e03ebde73d8c

EdithStourton · 24/01/2023 08:57

DD has been trying to convince me to vote Labour lately, and I was starting to waver (can't vote for any of them at the moment). But Lloyd Wossname and the others heckling like that - fucking shameful.

It's going to be a spoilt ballot at this rate.

pattihews · 24/01/2023 08:47

I can't vote for a party where you have to guess what they might really have planned, despite what they say. And it sounds as if there's been an order sent round that everyone's to denounce Rosie Duffield and they are. It sickens me.

ResisterRex · 24/01/2023 08:43

hints that women could relax and stop their protests because behind closed doors most Labour MPS were GC.

So, shut up especially in public, and stop embarrassing the party. It might lose us TRA votes, dontcha know...

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/01/2023 08:28

Oh, and yes, a friend who lives elsewhere in the UK had a CLP visitation from Jess Phillips. It was apparently all very fulsome and fabulous and Jess worked the room like the consummate pro she is and apparently there were more hints that women could relax and stop their protests because behind closed doors most Labour MPS were GC. My friend said she came home a bit pissed and full of hope, delighted to be reassured that with Labour she was in safe hands. The following day she woke up with the heart-sink feeling she'd been taken for a mug — and when she phoned someone else who'd been there too, to compare notes, they were also wondering what the game really was.

She's been doing similar for years. I have a signed book of hers where she exhorted me to "keep fighting", and another regular MNer does too. This was around 2016/17. But she has continued to disappoint.

ResisterRex · 24/01/2023 08:21

I don't get the free pass for Jess Phillips. There's also the fact she stands and read Ingala-Smith's list each year, yet Ingala-Smith still isn't allowed back in.

Floisme · 24/01/2023 08:16

fromorbit · 23/01/2023 17:43

Weird how Rosie sailed through Trigger ballot process last year if she had no local support in Canterbury.

www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/rosie-duffield-will-stand-again-after-surviving-ballot-271028/

For those sceptical of Labour MPs backing Rosie secretly she has repeatedly said this herself that she has backing of around 40 - 50 MPs in private. There are what I think 6 - 7 openly gender crit Labour MPs.

Also note she was elected head of the Women's section of the PLP after she openly started being gender critical. How did that happen if everyone in the party hates her? She has support, BUT people will not step up openly and Rosie has frequently lamented this. Possibly they may come out into the open if the situation warranted it, but anyway the fact the secret supporters exist is a key reason TRAs in the party have less influence than they want.

Obviously it sucks that only a handful of Lab MPs would openly support her position. However only 11 MPs defied Starmer to vote against the Order 35 motion. It is pretty clear that most Labour MPs are too scared to commit to either side openly. The massive fudge position is not just one Starmer likes, but the party in general.

As for Jess Phillips like her or loath her one thing is certain Rosie thinks Jess is ok as she said the other day.

"And just in case of any doubt, jessphillips is my friend. She is hilarious, kind and a big champion for women. She was as pissed off about the jeering, finger-jabbing men as I was. We may not agree 100% on every single aspect of women's rights but that is obviously totally ok!!"

twitter.com/RosieDuffield1/status/1616865871237976067

I didn't want to lift half a sentence without context so I've quoted the whole post but the bit that made me go 'What the fucking fuck' is this:
'Possibly they may come out into the open if the situation warranted it,

Possibly?
may??
If???

Do they have any idea how this looks?
Any idea at all?

TightFistedWozerk · 24/01/2023 08:10

Thank you Rex. Nasty bastard, briefing against Rosie.

ResisterRex · 24/01/2023 06:19

In The Times:

JK Rowling accuses Labour of letting down trans row MP Rosie Duffield

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cc84070a-9b5e-11ed-8201-2ed91f44d1e8?shareToken=75fc507b25fe2ad443269199cd12ad1e

thisismynewface · 23/01/2023 23:18

Thanks Rosie, I'm not sure how long you can hold on for, but as my MP I'm so proud of you and thanks for representing me.