Is the anything solid at all to back up TransPeople being the most vulnerable?

I would like to see the evidence to back this up as I do not think we have that data.

No, I am deeply skeptical of the ‘most vulnerable’ argument. That is not to say that there are not troubled and vulnerable transpeople, but the evidence is not strong.

I am a researcher btw. Most studies cited are surveys, where trans people are asked about their experiences. There was a recent one saying that many trans people had suffered a sexual assault and lower mental health that I read. However it had not detail whatsoever about the nature of the assault, whether this happened before someone was trans, which could possibly have led to wanting to not be comfortable with their body for example. The assumption is that lower mental health = someone struggling with gender and therefore becoming trans will help. But it is just an assumption! Lower mental health may well be a vulnerability to try to ‘seek’ a fix, any fix.

I’ve also seen a delve into suicide and transgender. Something that is frequently cited that if you don’t ‘affirm’ a young people of child then they might go on to have terrible mental health issues and possibly feel suicidal. Again there is no robust evidence on the cause and effect. There was a commissioned report where again, a SURVEY was used and many transgender people did report more suicidal feelings than those without. However again, did this result in actual self harm or suicides? We have no data. Did the mental distress happen as a result of becoming transgender, was it before, was it because of being not validated enough? Again, no robust evidence.

People with mental health issues are vulnerable. It doesn't help that TRA's and the media constantly pump out bullshit suicide stats and tell children that suicidal thoughts are part of being 'trans'.

That doesn't make people trans people the most vulnerable though.

Children are vulnerable to social contagion and being coerced by adults into believing lies.
I don't, however, think adult male cross dressers, AGP'S and aggressive TRA's are 'vulnerable' at all.

Agree with @exwhyzed

No.

But they identify as the most vulnerable, and in the reality they’re trying to create, all that matters is how you identify.

If only I could identify as young and thin.

Yes, I thought that people with anorexia or borderline personality disorder were particularly at risk of early death or suicide. But please correct me if I’ve got that wrong.

Anyone with psychological or physical issues is vulnerable what's so difficult to understand?

In recent years, there have been some harrowing media reports detailing the horrific murders of trans sex workers in Brazil. I wonder if some people have wrongly inferred from these cases that trans people all around the world are at extreme risk of being murdered.

If you worked for the NHS you would know that the leading cause of death in males under 50 is suicide.

Transpeople have the same suicide risk in accordance to their sex.

That unhcr paper reads like a parody.

Being transgender is a risk factor for successful suicide attempt. I work in a nhs mental health trust and we would consider them vulnerable on this basis.

thecritic.co.uk/neither-marginalised-abused-nor-vulnerable/

Sex crime figures show that 48% of TW in prison are convicted of sex crimes against women and children, compared to 16% of men in general.

Just says it all really.

Seems that in the UK at least, being trans puts you in the least vulnerable demographic. Which you’d think would be cause for celebration, but no.

From a thread the other day...

Oops I Just realized my grammar was a bit shit because obviously I mean
48% of TW who are in prison are in there for....

I obviously don't think 48% of all transwomen in the UK are in prison for sex offenses! But in my defense you'd have to be a bit thick to think that so I didn't exactly perfect my sentences... Sorry pendents...

This!

Because they (were) men, and men have to win at everything......even if the proof is there that they don't.......

Nope. They're pretty much the most priveleged people in society as present, with special human right's that trump others.

People with learning difficulties certainly seem to be ignored in the ongoing campaign to make healthcare information “more inclusive”.

They're very vulnerable, the most vulnerable in society. They certainly trump children with cancer, paraplegics you name it if you're trans you are the most vulnerable with the most sensitive disposition and God forbid you dare call them by the wrong pronoun - yes I'm being facetious and no not all are like that. But honestly I couldn't care less. As long as you're not trying to brainwash my children into questioning their sexuality there are way more important things going on in the world and frankly the trans community is a non entity

There is nothing.

Researchers estimate that people with learning disabilities were up to 6 x more likely to die from covid than the general population. They're vulnerable - and completely ignored. There's only so much 'most vulnerable' handwringing I can stomach tbh.

In the news yesterday was information about that man who murdered his pregnant girlfriend and three children. He took the lives of 5 people in one act.

Now tell me how many trans people have been murdered in the U.K. in the last ten - hell, twenty - years and tell me again why they are ‘most vulnerable’?

Quote from above article follows

According to these figures, there was one trans person murdered in the UK in that time, and a total of nine trans people were murdered in the UK between 2008 and 2017. That’s an average rate of one victim per year.

A back-of-envelope calculation based on this data would suggest that the average trans person has a one-in-200,000 to one-in-500,000 chance of being murdered in the UK over the course of a year.

How does that compare to the wider population?
Figures from the ONS for 2008 to 2017 show that the average adult in England and Wales has a one-in-100,000 chance of being murdered in a given year.

The limited data we’re working with suggests that in the UK at least, a trans person is less likely to be murdered than the average person.

Delphinium20 · Today 20:38

In the UK it's similar, transpeople are actually less likely to be a victim of murder than any other demographic

I'll link to the Channel 4 fact check

www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-how-many-trans-people-murdered-uk