Secondary school (girls only) included a transwoman in their assembly on inspirational women

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Remove references to 'gender identity' from relationships education guidance

Since 2020 the DfE has published guidance for relationships and sex education. This says "Pupils should be taught the facts and the law about sex, sexuality, sexual health and gender identity in an age-appropriate and inclusive way". Gender identity is a social construct, and not recognised in law.

There's no evidence that we're born with a ‘gender identity’, and we do not believe that schools should be teaching children about this concept. We also believe that teaching school children about gender identity is inconsistent with the Education Act (section 406), which prohibits 'political indoctrination'. The Government should remove all references to 'gender identity' from guidance on relationships and sex education.

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Wrong story. Eddie talked about how he went into a ladies' toilet many years ago, wearing men's clothes, in order to change into his lady outfit.

A group of teenage girls called him out, asking what he was doing, as as far as they could see, a middle aged man had just walked into the ladies.

Eddie came out and apparently chased them down the street. He presented it as a Very Brave Act, but every woman who's ever been a teenage girl saw it rather differently.

Hardly going to inspire the girls to win the men's Olympic decathlon gold, now is it.

”Come on Marg you can do better than that.”

I’m familiar with Margarita’s oeuvre to date, and I’ve seen little that would support that. But we live in hope.

What I heard was EI used a women's bathroom and no other women there objected. However she was followed in by Julie Bindel(I think) and her friend who shouted at the other women there because they weren't objecting to EI?

So do women. And are best placed to be, to talk about being inspirational women.

Come on Marg you can do better than that.

@Flippettyflip

I think you have the first draft of your email already:
Impartiality - it's not a fact that TW are women, it's the teachers opinion. They should not present it as fact and they need to be careful about balance on such a politically sensitive subject.

If the point was to provide inspiration to the girls, how does featuring a TW help? None of the girls can legitimately aspire to be a TW. Why try to teach them that "womanhood" is apparently about what you wear/look like or how you describe yourself?

You could leave it there but if you felt like it you could add that there are plenty of inspirational women to choose from, and that we keep erasing them so that each generation has to rediscover them. Teaching about them to young girls keeps the flame alive. There are also so many interesting debates that could follow from a talk/presentation by/about one of the Lionesses, Chimamanda Ngozie Adiche, Onjali Rauf, Sharron Davies, Martina Navratilova.... endless discussions to be had. There's someone for everyone, even without going back into history.

Good luck and well done for making the effort to challenge this.

Bloody hell ! This would be the Eddie Izzard who boasted of going into a Ladies loo and when challenged by “bullying” teenage girls , shouted at them ?

The issue is that men are not women. Inspirational or otherwise.

No, that male people aren't "inspirational women". There are many inspirational women in the world through time, we don't need to include any males to make up the numbers.

What's the issue? Trans people exist?

Was Eddie in girl mode for the occasion? the least he could do tbh

On Inspirational women?

My nieces school had Eddie Izzard in to talk to them.

Jenner has shown some support for female sports which is good but didn’t Jenner get caught by his young daughters dressing in womens clothes sometime before Jenner made it public. I’m pretty sure they were quite distressed about it - understandably. The whole dad comes out as trans thing must be really difficult for children (and obviously wives too).

Does the school have or accept and mtf trans pupils?

This seems to be the "in" thing for independent girls schools. My old school is climbing its way up the Stonewall ladder and all the earnest alumni newsletters asking for cash come from a Person with Pronouns.

I'm waiting to see if they dare admit a transgirl. I don't see it going down well with the parents but what other endgame can there be?

I will be peeved if they do as my son is very much in touch with his feminine side and could have sat the entrance exam. I think he'd be very happy in a girls school but would be excluded on the basis of our family's non belief in gender ID.

Jenner's an interesting character in some ways. Curious what the school finds inspirational about Jenner's views:

'In her reality show I Am Cait, Jenner said that although she does not support Donald Trump, she thinks he would be good for women's issues; she then stated she would never support Hillary Clinton'

'The hardest part about being a woman is figuring out what to wear.' - quote from Jenner

'In September 2021, Jenner supported the Texas Heartbeat Act which made all post-six-week abortions illegal'

'Jenner stated in an interview with TMZ that trans girls should not be allowed to compete in girls' sports at school'

Could the school really not find enough actual women for this event without having to bring in someone who spent the first 60 odd years of life as a man?
FFS!!! 😡

Oh, here's one:

'In June 2016, Jenner became the first openly transgender person to be featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated'

Well, that's something to aim for.

What is it that Caitlyn Jenner has done that makes Caitlyn inspirational? All of the sporting achievements were as a male, no?

My dd’s all girls school refers to them all as “people” never girls anymore and “they” in messages from school, not she or her, and also has posters for Mermaids up in public areas. They also teach tenets of identity based politics in PHSE and there is no attempt whatsoever to teach a balanced perspective. I can’t rock the boat, it makes life difficult for dd. She knows it’s all nonsense though but sometimes I wonder if I should have just gone along with it all because I think it’s embedded into the future now and dd thinking critically about or rejecting it is only going to make her stand out amongst her peers who appear to have absorbed without question.

Well I think it could be interesting for them to think about why some people reject being female

And also it carries a message that once a female always a female no matter what your identity is or how important being female is to yiu