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Lorraine GMB TRA interview coming up

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mrshoho · 17/01/2023 09:22

Lorraine on GMB about to interview TRA Hannah Graf. Should be interesting...

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Battytwatty · 18/01/2023 20:46

I always thought Lorraine Kelly was a giggling half wit - and now I know I was right.

CryInToYourCornflakesNicola · 18/01/2023 17:12

bellinisurge · 17/01/2023 11:34

Our only comfort is how squirmy these idiots are going to be as the sunlight pours in.

With LK I think its beyond brilliant that she did all these interviews on prime TV. Absolutely no rowing back for her. She can never distance herself. Her fawning is blatant, her smirking at the "stupid women " is there for all to see. I never liked her anyway, but this is gold.
Wait when the tide turns and she says, I was just doing my job. Wont be enough.

orangelotus · 18/01/2023 16:46

thankyou fir the email address i'm making a complaint now.
There really needs to be a shake up with a lot of these programmes.
So often if you know anything at all about the subject they are speaking about you realise it's all ill informed nonsense.
As for LK it's impossible to know how she has a whole terrible show to herself.

ArabellaScott · 18/01/2023 08:38

FunnyTalks · 17/01/2023 10:11

Oh lib fems are v conflicted about the Femicide census! ( source I try and follow lots of different viewpoints on social media and lurk in various groups)

They know they need those statistics in order to keep feminism relevant and strong enough for transwomen to appropriate. But it hurts their gendered souls that K I S is a "terf". Earnest discussions about stealing the data and then trying to claim ownership of it, as if to purify it. Just like the people who try and separate Harry Potter from JKR. Didn't occur to a single one to collate their own gender based census.

Unsurprising. That type of feminism is very much about keeping women disempowered. It encourages complaints but not any actual action, not any self motivation or assertion. It offers a simulacra of 'empowerment' that is cleverly designed to actually keep women in their place. 'Girl Power' = get your tits out for the lads but enjoy it.

twinklystar23 · 18/01/2023 08:12

So Katie Dolowski attacks 10 yes old girl in the women's toilets, almost was sent to prison- to be locked up with another woman "she" could sexually assault at will.

Could call it a win win for sexual predators then?

OhHolyJesus · 18/01/2023 07:37

Here is how to contact the programme:

www.itv.com/lorraine/articles/contact-us

HandsOffMyCarrierBags · 18/01/2023 07:29

I was an 80s teen. Hadn’t heard of Lorraine for years and now don’t want to hear from her at all. Incredibly backwards and unbalanced promotion of ideas

Norma27 · 18/01/2023 07:03

bellinisurge · 18/01/2023 06:33

Jess Phillips retweeted a clip from this. FFS Jess.

I saw someone on twitter say that but I can’t see the retweet. Going to look again. She is my mp and I’m so disappointed if so.

bellinisurge · 18/01/2023 06:33

Jess Phillips retweeted a clip from this. FFS Jess.

sensechec · 18/01/2023 04:19

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 17/01/2023 23:47

She wasn't sympering with Kathleen Stock when she had her on.

She was hideous to KS

windysocks · 17/01/2023 23:49

Cant abide Lorraine

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 17/01/2023 23:47

She wasn't sympering with Kathleen Stock when she had her on.

WallaceinAnderland · 17/01/2023 23:38

Lorraine has gone too far to admit that she understands reality now. There's no going back for her. She's chosen this although I expect she had to to keep her job. I feel very sorry for her but understand that it's very hard to speak against the nonsense. She is protecting herself.

mrshoho · 17/01/2023 14:43

ReunitedThorns · 17/01/2023 11:35

When you have an amendment to legislation to prevent sex offenders from being able to get a GRC, and that amendment is thrown out specifically to allow sex offenders to right to easily get a GRC, how can you argue that it's got nothing to do with sex offenders?

You have a piece of legislation where you have explicitly debated giving sex offenders certain rights.

Trans rights would be so much easier to support if they didn't keep insisting on giving convicted sex offenders certain rights too.

Yes it is astounding that exemptions and special consideration can be given to inherited titles of our aristocracy but no consideration of any kind with regards to sex offenders.

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agent765 · 17/01/2023 12:06

As a woman that never wanted her daughter to go through male abuse from flashers to physical violence (I failed), I'm always wary of women like Lorraine who can't think further than men's feelings.

I wonder if she'd change her tune if her daughter suffered as many women do at the hands of men. Money can't protect you from everything.

ReunitedThorns · 17/01/2023 11:35

When you have an amendment to legislation to prevent sex offenders from being able to get a GRC, and that amendment is thrown out specifically to allow sex offenders to right to easily get a GRC, how can you argue that it's got nothing to do with sex offenders?

You have a piece of legislation where you have explicitly debated giving sex offenders certain rights.

Trans rights would be so much easier to support if they didn't keep insisting on giving convicted sex offenders certain rights too.

bellinisurge · 17/01/2023 11:34

Our only comfort is how squirmy these idiots are going to be as the sunlight pours in.

mrshoho · 17/01/2023 11:28

It is infuriating listening to her smirk at the thought of women being scared of transwomen using female toilets etc. How insulting to women and girls who know the dangers of making this law.

There was one example of the wee girl in a supermarket toilet. Ten years old and had to fight off a male (transwoman) in the middle of the day in a supposedly safe environment.

metro.co.uk/2019/03/16/transgender-woman-18-sexually-assaulted-girl-10-morrisons-toilet-8914577/

What do you say about that Lorraine? How would you look her and her Mother in the face and smirk at them?

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Tiredo · 17/01/2023 11:25

@WinterTrees You’re so right. It was such gaslighting I honestly couldn’t believe what I was hearing and so dangerous. It makes you wonder why we bother when we’re (women) not rowing the same boat, especially when she’s off rowing theirs (TRA) on national tv.

WinterTrees · 17/01/2023 11:19

“oh for goodness sake, why do people think trans women are all predators waiting in the toilet for you and your children- have some common sense!”

LK has placed herself firmly in this camp for years to earn head pats from the rainbow community. That's her TV USP - her brand is gossipy and down to earth, 'one of the girls' but also a sort of cosy mum/best friend figure to gay men and drag queens. Her tinkly-laugh, be-kind simper has wide appeal.

But she needs to be very careful now.

Too many women KNOW that a man in a women's toilet is a threat. Most women are not comfortable with the thought of their daughters - perhaps just gaining independence as teens, or finding their feet in the world as young women - encountering strong, large, male-bodied people in station toilets late at night, when out with their friends in shopping centres or in pubs or clubs when they might have been drinking. Women KNOW, OFTEN FROM EXPERIENCE that this is dangerous. They don't want those real, evidence based concerns hand-waved away by a TV personality who is paid millions to appear ordinary while never having to worry about the risks she's minimising.

But I suspect she won't change. As unclebuck says, she's Izzard's bff and has fawned over Munroe, Lees, Shon Faye and most of the rest of them at some time or other. I just wish she'd be honest enough to come right out and declare herself an MRA.

unclebuck · 17/01/2023 10:37

She's Eddie Izzards bff isn't she. They have super girlie sleepovers with face packs and pillow fights.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/01/2023 10:23

Rupaul's Drag Race?

LizzieSiddal · 17/01/2023 10:21

Lorraine has close associations with Drag culture, she’s been a judge on that big BBC drag Queen show, sorry can’t remember its name and she presented another Drag show on ITV. So she’s got financial skin in the game.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/01/2023 10:20

Didn't occur to a single one to collate their own gender based census.

That would involve doing some actual work rather than whinging on social media to their echo chamber.

Tiredo · 17/01/2023 10:19

It was the whole.. “oh for goodness sake, why do people think trans women are all predators waiting in the toilet for you and your children- have some common sense!” I’m paraphrasing LK but in that interview she said exactly those words, the notion that a woman and her child is lacking common sense when they feel genuine fear when I man/TW enters what should be an intimate female only space made me feel physically sick, especially as a woman with a daughter.

However this mornings debate on it seemed to have much more ‘common sense’ and in favour of actual women and their rights to feeling and being safe.