Complications from trans surgery!

When anyone bothers to look into the backgrounds of teenagers referred to gender clinics, you find statistical improbabilities. Here's a point that doesn't get brought up on MN as much as it should. The disproportionate numbers of children in care who were being referred.

The researchers note the high rate of GIDS referrals from Looked after (LAC) and adopted children. They note that LACs make up 0.58% of the general population but 4.9% of GIDs referrals. Adopted children account for another 3.8% of referrals. The data, therefore, illustrates a significant over-representation of these groups in the GIDs patient population.

It is worth noting that children living with grandparents are counted in the category of children living with their biological family (YPBF). In my experience every child I know, who is living with grandparents, has some trauma in their background, often related to bereavement or alcohol/drug dependent parents. I would have preferred to see disaggregated data on this group of children. The children from disrupted family backgrounds are therefore under-estimated in the population defined by the researchers.

gendercriticalwoman.blog/2021/05/15/gender-dysphoria-looked-after-children-part-3-u-k-gids/

There's a Government petition up now that has shot past 100k needed for a debate asking that LGBT is no longer taught in relationship classes in schools. While I think it'll be good for there to be a debate, I think its pity it's been worded this way. It's gender ideology that I'd like to see scotched.

Something I've not seen being discussed yet is when these people get old. I've read a few accounts now of people working in homes for the elderly or people with early onset dementia and the likes.

Trans people wake up and freak out about their genitals or breasts being gone because they forgot they were trans. The nurses have to try and explain to these poor people they chose it and they aren't being held and experimented on by crazy people. (Though that's not far from reality)

It's not an innate condition. They weren't born with it if they can forget it.

For me this is proof the whole thing is snake oil and another stain on the medical profession and humanity as a whole. All these people deserve better. We should be doing better.

Who actually thinks it's healthy to tell children they can change or choose their sex instead of actually finding out what is causing their dysphoria and dealing with that, especially when it's proven that the majority grow out of it when their bodies and brains mature.

The government, who are currently enshrining this in law. Terrifyingly Orwellian.

It would stop if the fucking grown ups stepped in and stopped allowing batshit gender identity ideology to be taught in schools as fact.

If all the 'affirmation only' crap stopped.

Children are being fed lies and given false promises.
Who actually thinks it's healthy to tell children they can change or choose their sex instead of actually finding out what is causing their dysphoria and dealing with that, especially when it's proven that the majority grow out of it when their bodies and brains mature.

Treating the symptoms and not the cause will only ever give temporary relief.

It's like giving anorexic's gastric surgery or liposuction to ease their mental distress.

It’s just mad. So if you’re a childfree woman and can’t get sterilised because you might change your mind on children, just say you’re a transman! Then they’ll do it no probs.

And yet, many NHS trusts are all over it insisting on referring to pregnant people and chest feeding, so they must still be under the impression that a significant proportion of transmen (who cannot possibly live as women) will still want to become mothers (oops, 'birthing parents').

And it's not just activists, it's also just normal people who are still in the "be kind" live and let live phase who don't realise they're only reading one side of this appalling story because it's so heavily censored and suppressed. Even on Mumsnet people demand that the discussion is squirrelled away on the feminism board, and not even on the main board - on a separate sex and gender board. It's not exactly at the bottom of a dark basement in a locked filing cabinet with a sign on that says "beware of the leopard" but it might as well be.

Any questioning, anything other than total affirmation and you are a disgusting transphobe, a Tory, funded by the Christian Right, etc. The post by @Janesy123 on this very thread is a perfect example.

Parents have been reported to social services by schools for not supporting their child's transition. There was an article by Hadley Freeman last weekend in the Sunday papers about it.

I meant to have it as a quote from a PP. It's Susie Green, former CEO of Mermaids.

Homophobia is what was at the bottom of that particular story.

Oh. That’s interesting.

Your first paragraph makes me want to cry.

With reference to Scotland and the lowering of the age for GRC to 16, in law a convicted criminal UNDER the age of 25 cannot be given an adult prison sentence because "the brain, emotional maturity etc is not fully developed" 🤔

One's mother was filmed laughing that the puberty blockers hadn't left the surgeons much to work with. Laughing that these, arguably, unnecessary drugs had stunted her son's penis.

Oh, that will be former head of Mermaids, Susie Green, who recently had to step down as her charity employed people associated with advocating for paedophilia.

Mermaids exists in its current form because Susie Green needed to justify her barbaric actions towards her son. Doubling down doesn't even begin to cover it.

It's been really eye-opening and really sad reading some of these replies.
There isn't much awareness about this topic at all.
I take back my comment I made before. It was insensitive and made out of ignorance. Thanks to all for your input.

It’s just mad. So if you’re a childfree woman and can’t get sterilised because you might change your mind on children, just say you’re a transman! Then they’ll do it no probs.

I know a plastic surgeon in the NHS. Last time I saw her I asked what surgery she and her colleagues do the most of and she said that for the past few years it had been surgeries related to transitioning. Imagine the amount of NHS funding that is taken up by this, not to mention vast salaries in every trust for “diversity and inclusion” officers and rainbow badges and lanyards.

Until recently the CEO of Mermaids, the charity that everyone refers kids to [currently under investigation by the charities commission], was a woman who:
had a son who played with girls toys, had a father that didn't want a gay son, took the toys away and only gave them back when the boy said 'I'm a girl' in order to get his toys back, gained puberty blockers and hormones online from the USA, gave them to her son, socially transitioned him, took him aged 15 to Thailand to have his penis removed and a vagina constructed, laughed along with his grandmother about how the blockers gave him such a tiny penis that the doctors had little to work with.

That's who everyone has been referring their kids to for years.

She literally transed away the gay. The videos of her TED talk and the one with her and his grandmother laughing about his tiny penis are all on you tube.

IMO there needs to be more awareness raised on the issues with this operation and at least some attempts to help the trans person to accept their genitals with therapy.

The problem is this view marks you out as a humungous transphobe (not by me obviously, but the activists).

Nothing but total and complete affirmation is tolerated.

Whatever your views on trans people, this needs to be talked about more.

The side effects listed as minor like problems urinating and sexual dysfunction - that would probably be an acceptable if the genitals had been operated on because of penile cancer, or trauma in an accident, but this is serious surgery being done on healthy body parts!

IMO there needs to be more awareness raised on the issues with this operation and at least some attempts to help the trans person to accept their genitals with therapy.

Yeah, I think Abigail Thorn a trans youtuber said in a statement that menopausal "cis women wanted HRT but that trans women NEEDED HRT" and even in the midst of the current NHS crisis continues to centre ans priorities the needs of trans people over trans people over everyone else.

Lots of business donate to various charities. Doesn’t mean they are safe. Wasn’t there a children’s one in London got shut down pretty quickly once certain facts came to light.

It being America, these young women will probably be told that their 'gender affirming care' will be done for free or at reduced cost if they agree to donate their uterus.

ouch that's hit me hard. What a double standard.

Also the demands for hormone therapy for TW as a matter of urgency, when actual women who genuinely need hormone replacement therapy can't access it.

Women under approx 30 cannot obtain a hysterectomy even for chronic pain because they might change their mind about having babies. Yet a female born trans person can do this at 18. ouch that's hit me hard. What a double standard.

@TheClitterati That's truly vile and impossible these men will end up with a rotting, decaying alien organ pointlessly inside them and that will probably kill them and young women will have essentially had their organs harvested by fetishists. Truly vile and inhumane.