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Complications from trans surgery!

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Ihatedonuts · 16/01/2023 20:20

I know it's a daily mail article but I can't help thinking. We only ever hear positive stories but the figures tell us this. I really hope the men and woman are getting the support they need from these complications. 🥺

Half of trans surgery patients suffer pain, sexual issues years later mol.im/a/11629421 via dailym.ai/android

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Kaibashira · 16/01/2023 21:16

Phalloplasties are nightmarish botch-jobs. Absolutely horrendous stuff.

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Same for neo-vaginas.

This is extreme body modification not "healthcare".

Should adults be able to do that to their own bodies? Probably, yes. Bodily autonomy and all that.

Should they be able to access it under the guise of "healthcare"? Definitely not, no.

And there is absolutely no excuse for telling children that this sort of modification will "affirm" an "identity". That's just dangerous and disingenuous.

toocold54 · 16/01/2023 21:16

I wonder how many people go to different countries to get these things done.

I know many people who’ve been to turkey to get their breasts done or liposuction because it’s way cheaper and you get it done much quicker.

Unfortunately there are less regulations and anyone can get anything done and it’s not always to a high standard.

It personally bugs me more if a person says they’re trans but won’t have the surgery to remove their genitals - as to me that’s not being truly trans and I feel they’re doing it for the wrong reasons.

However, anyone who wants to change their gender needs counselling and needs to live as the opposite sex for at least a year and of course must be at least 21.

The same goes for people who want to live as an amputee or blind person and damage their bodies to do so.

AgathaAllAlong · 16/01/2023 21:16

It doesn't heal. Healing would be it closing. They want it to stay open. Imagine...

RaininSummer · 16/01/2023 21:16

Horrendous and quite astonishing that people opt for these risky surgeries.

tillytoodles1 · 16/01/2023 21:15

Ludo19 · 16/01/2023 21:13

This 100%

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antipodeancanary · 16/01/2023 21:14

Ihatedonuts · 16/01/2023 21:12

But how does it heal?

God knows. It's meant to of course, but one of the complications is that it doesn't. Or that it does but too tightly.

Lockheart · 16/01/2023 21:14

Blendy · 16/01/2023 20:39

Oh well

This is an appalling response.

Regardless of where you stand on trans issues, these are still human beings who are suffering.

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Ihatedonuts · 16/01/2023 21:12

But how does it heal?

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antipodeancanary · 16/01/2023 21:11

Ihatedonuts · 16/01/2023 21:06

I'm sorry what do you mean stretch the hole???

They have to stretch the fake vagina. Like you have to wear an earring or the piercing will close up. But on a much bigger scale.

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Ihatedonuts · 16/01/2023 21:10

But how can It be painful if the surgeon has made the hole? I mean I'm still waiting wary about surgery as above . But once it's done it's done 🤷

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Pixiedust1234 · 16/01/2023 21:09

Half???? My god that a horrendously high number

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Ihatedonuts · 16/01/2023 21:09

But how can it kept open for years?? I must be missing something here. Ears are different to downstairs!!!

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MaireadMcSweeney · 16/01/2023 21:09

Ihatedonuts · 16/01/2023 21:06

I'm sorry what do you mean stretch the hole???

Dilating using dildo type objects. They have to insert them daily to stop the wound closing. Imagine how painful.

IcallitVera · 16/01/2023 21:08

In much the same way as you twist or wiggle a new ear piercing to stop it closing.

It's just a surgical wound being kept open after all.

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Ihatedonuts · 16/01/2023 21:07

A fistula?

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Ihatedonuts · 16/01/2023 21:06

I'm sorry what do you mean stretch the hole???

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Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 16/01/2023 21:04

I saw this earlier, it's terrible. I have seen about some of the side effects before, they have to stretch the hole several times a day and it can be incredibly painful. If they don't, they close up and that's even more pain.
I've seen many de-transitioners online speak out about their experience and be bullied for it. They mutilated their bodies for nothing.

AnneLovesGilbert · 16/01/2023 21:00

Babdoc · 16/01/2023 20:43

Why are they calling it a vaginoplasty? No surgeon can create a vagina - what these men have received is basically a surgical fistula, with all the inevitable problems that come with it.

And why are the saying the surgery turns a man into a woman or vice versa. More to both sexes than visible genitalia even if any of this sounds like it looks convincing. Which I doubt it does.

smileladiesplease · 16/01/2023 20:58

People are being duped. This trans juggernaught will be stopped in its tracks as law suit after law suit starts to roll in.

Surgeons will push back as insurance companies won't insure for the surgery.
Can't come quick enough to save future lives

Orchidflower1 · 16/01/2023 20:56

MiaMoor · 16/01/2023 20:54

Creating a gaping wound leads to high rates of complications.
Who’d have thought it.

When grown adults are choosing this when there is plenty of information out there stating the high risk, they can do what they like. Presumably they are making an informed decision.
When teenagers are clamouring for double mastectomies and hysterectomies we should be putting more time and effort into mental health care and not affirming this delusion.

And this ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️

Orchidflower1 · 16/01/2023 20:55

Skinnermarink · 16/01/2023 20:46

Well that’s hardly blimming surprising is it. Creating body parts in a body that wasn’t designed that way.

This totally! ⬆️⬆️⬆️

MiaMoor · 16/01/2023 20:54

Creating a gaping wound leads to high rates of complications.
Who’d have thought it.

When grown adults are choosing this when there is plenty of information out there stating the high risk, they can do what they like. Presumably they are making an informed decision.
When teenagers are clamouring for double mastectomies and hysterectomies we should be putting more time and effort into mental health care and not affirming this delusion.

DrDinosaur · 16/01/2023 20:52

Well it's not surprising that surgery on a part of your anatomy involved in sexual and urinary function, with a very high concentration of nerve endings, often results in complications.
These surgeries are not necessary for physical health, they are often justified on the grounds that they improve mental health, but there is no actual evidence that this is the case.
Its a medical scandal worse than lobotomies.

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