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Complications from trans surgery!

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Ihatedonuts · 16/01/2023 20:20

I know it's a daily mail article but I can't help thinking. We only ever hear positive stories but the figures tell us this. I really hope the men and woman are getting the support they need from these complications. 🥺

Half of trans surgery patients suffer pain, sexual issues years later mol.im/a/11629421 via dailym.ai/android

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littlelid · 16/01/2023 21:31

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 16/01/2023 21:30

It doesn’t. The body tries to seal it. So they have to dilate every single day for ever. It’s not real. Look up how it’s done - actually don’t it’s absolutely horrific.

Yep. It's called post operative vaginal dilation. So they have to use a dildo effectively to keep stretching it several times a day. This is painful for them and even though it's painful, they still have to do it. Or it closes up.

Forever?! Omg!

Unsure33 · 16/01/2023 21:31

PizzaNinja · 16/01/2023 21:26

What I can’t understand is the people that do the surgeries. Imagine training to be a doctor, and then essentially damaging healthy bodies intentionally. It’s just grossly unethical.

Money . The amount of gender clinics in USA has grown extremely quickly . Money in drugs and surgery . And I don’t think people realised what was happening here either . Not the numbers as in USA but what happens in USA etc.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 16/01/2023 21:30

It doesn’t. The body tries to seal it. So they have to dilate every single day for ever. It’s not real. Look up how it’s done - actually don’t it’s absolutely horrific.

Yep. It's called post operative vaginal dilation. So they have to use a dildo effectively to keep stretching it several times a day. This is painful for them and even though it's painful, they still have to do it. Or it closes up.

IneedanewTV · 16/01/2023 21:30

Ihatedonuts · 16/01/2023 21:29

Sorry kid woke up just seen dilating. Surely they don't have to do that forever???? I just hate the thought these kids / teenagers being told it will cure stuff. What about if they want to have kids later??? How does that work?

Yes for ever.

Ihatedonuts · 16/01/2023 21:29

Sorry kid woke up just seen dilating. Surely they don't have to do that forever???? I just hate the thought these kids / teenagers being told it will cure stuff. What about if they want to have kids later??? How does that work?

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9outof10cats · 16/01/2023 21:29

Lockheart · 16/01/2023 21:14

This is an appalling response.

Regardless of where you stand on trans issues, these are still human beings who are suffering.

This is an elective surgical procedure, not a life-saving one. Surely people have a degree of responsibility to research the risks and complications that can arise, for themselves?

Unsure33 · 16/01/2023 21:29

In this day and age it is not difficult to search SM and find out this information plus long term damage from taking hormones. There are a lot of de-transitioners in the USA sharing stories , including young girls really regretting top surgery . It is very sad because then also they are bullied by trans men and women as well as if they are dis-loyal. Heartbreaking .

OneTC · 16/01/2023 21:27

MaireadMcSweeney · 16/01/2023 21:09

Dilating using dildo type objects. They have to insert them daily to stop the wound closing. Imagine how painful.

TIL.

😭

IneedanewTV · 16/01/2023 21:26

Ihatedonuts · 16/01/2023 21:09

But how can it kept open for years?? I must be missing something here. Ears are different to downstairs!!!

It doesn’t. The body tries to seal it. So they have to dilate every single day for ever. It’s not real. Look up how it’s done - actually don’t it’s absolutely horrific.

PizzaNinja · 16/01/2023 21:26

What I can’t understand is the people that do the surgeries. Imagine training to be a doctor, and then essentially damaging healthy bodies intentionally. It’s just grossly unethical.

UWhatNow · 16/01/2023 21:25

Maybe some of the TRAs could look into this situation on behalf of trans people instead of sending awful death threats to JKR and ruining the careers of decent academics.

BethDuttonsTwin · 16/01/2023 21:25

smileladiesplease · 16/01/2023 20:58

People are being duped. This trans juggernaught will be stopped in its tracks as law suit after law suit starts to roll in.

Surgeons will push back as insurance companies won't insure for the surgery.
Can't come quick enough to save future lives

I hope you’re right but when though? I peaked in 2015 and we were all saying this then. It’s close to a decade on and still crickets.

DrBlackbird · 16/01/2023 21:24

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This is quite a harsh response. They are not idiots, but confused, rejecting extreme sexualised stereotypes, dealing with trauma and/or completely misinformed and led astray by the many MANY posts and YouTube channels that proselytise with proud photos of mastectomies and new authentic selves including by high profile actresses. Add to the mix that you are younger and trying to find an identity with the trans community telling you that you’re special and it makes for a disaster for our young adults.

Breakfastinbedonhols · 16/01/2023 21:24

MaryBerrysCamelToe · 16/01/2023 21:19

It's like any wound or part of the body that is made open when it shouldn't naturally be there. Like piercing holes etc, the body tries to close it up as it naturally wants to 'heal' it.
This is what happens unfortunately when we mess with the natural anatomy of the body unnecessarily.
I wonder if people having these operations are actually told that only 50% are 'successful' and without long term pain/ complications. I know all surgeries come with a general list of risks that are possible but these are major life changing risks that should be heavily stressed before allowing someone to go through with the procedure.

I think that even if some are told the high risks, they always think that it only happens to other people.

BethDuttonsTwin · 16/01/2023 21:23

Well here come the chickens home to roost. For almost a decade GC women have been shouting from the rooftops about these dangers and they were attacked, abused, careers ruined and ostracised for doing so. So I don’t care, except for the poor kids involved. Anyone who worked in this industry - and it is an industry, a highly profitable one, should be in jail.

Wheresthebeach · 16/01/2023 21:23

JacquelinePot · 16/01/2023 21:19

These surgeries should be viewed in the same way we view lobotomies: unethical, dangerous and ineffective, with horrific and irreversible side effects.

Humans can't change sex and it is indescribably cruel to pretend otherwise.

Hopefully many expensive lawsuits will end it…very sad

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Alittlenonsensenowandthen · 16/01/2023 21:22

The irony is that the same politicians and lobbyists are fighting for girls to not have fgm in other countries (rightly so) but are happy to mutilate in the name of trans rights. Defies logic.

Breakfastinbedonhols · 16/01/2023 21:22

I don’t think this thread will last long.

I really feel for some young people who being sold a dream of changing who they are by taking medication or perusing surgery. It is most definitely life changing, but I don’t think in the way they believe it will be.

littlelid · 16/01/2023 21:20

People don't just do it for fun. I just hope they get shown lots of photos etc of what can go wrong so they can make an informed decision.

MaryBerrysCamelToe · 16/01/2023 21:19

Ihatedonuts · 16/01/2023 21:10

But how can It be painful if the surgeon has made the hole? I mean I'm still waiting wary about surgery as above . But once it's done it's done 🤷

It's like any wound or part of the body that is made open when it shouldn't naturally be there. Like piercing holes etc, the body tries to close it up as it naturally wants to 'heal' it.
This is what happens unfortunately when we mess with the natural anatomy of the body unnecessarily.
I wonder if people having these operations are actually told that only 50% are 'successful' and without long term pain/ complications. I know all surgeries come with a general list of risks that are possible but these are major life changing risks that should be heavily stressed before allowing someone to go through with the procedure.

JacquelinePot · 16/01/2023 21:19

These surgeries should be viewed in the same way we view lobotomies: unethical, dangerous and ineffective, with horrific and irreversible side effects.

Humans can't change sex and it is indescribably cruel to pretend otherwise.

Hopesakiller · 16/01/2023 21:18

Seems like an expectation Vs reality situation. They want a porn stars vagina and end up with a surgically created orifice that behaves in some ways similar to your average woman's vagina. As a born female I have at times experienced many of the complaints on that list

SeenAndNot · 16/01/2023 21:17

Ihatedonuts · 16/01/2023 21:10

But how can It be painful if the surgeon has made the hole? I mean I'm still waiting wary about surgery as above . But once it's done it's done 🤷

Presumably the same as piercings and other surgeries. I had a belly piercing for several years and I gave up on it because it kept getting painful and infected.

I still have pain from a c-section 10 years ago. That’s a statistically far more common procedure and many women suffer pain for decades after. I can only imagine vaginoplasty is a far more complex procedure and much greater risk of complications.

Its disgraceful this isn’t more openly talked about 50% is a terribly high number, daily pain is exhausting. I feel very sorry for those suffering.

Noicant · 16/01/2023 21:16

Thats just tragic, it must be a horrible way to live, knowing that you did it voluntarily (although I’m sure at the time most of them would have said they believed it to be necessary).

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