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Complications from trans surgery!

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Ihatedonuts · 16/01/2023 20:20

I know it's a daily mail article but I can't help thinking. We only ever hear positive stories but the figures tell us this. I really hope the men and woman are getting the support they need from these complications. 🥺

Half of trans surgery patients suffer pain, sexual issues years later mol.im/a/11629421 via dailym.ai/android

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JacquelinePot · 16/01/2023 21:43

T = testosterone, in this context given to girls to make them grow facial and body hair and irreversibly deepen their voices.

Also causes vaginal atrophy and early menopause often leading to hysterectomy, thus rendering them infertile.

DFSsale · 16/01/2023 21:43

Hair in vagina! What have I just read?

Ihatedonuts · 16/01/2023 21:43

Isn't testorone a male hormone???

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BethDuttonsTwin · 16/01/2023 21:43

Bawdrip · 16/01/2023 21:41

Whatever they are experiencing it is absolutely *not vaginal dryness or vaginal discharge. Truly, it sounds repulsive. Do they have sex? With wounds? I presume they have lost the ability to orgasm. I'm astonished that nearly half don't have these issues tbh

I bet more do but aren’t truthful about it.

LikeTearsInRain · 16/01/2023 21:43

Hopefully surgical methods will improve and there are other treatments or drugs that can lead to better outcomes for these Women

MrsPutnamNaomiDarling · 16/01/2023 21:42

This must be why a lot of trans women keep their penises, surely?

clutchingatpearls · 16/01/2023 21:42

Have a look at this interview. I can't abide JP but he is very good with Chloe. I found the interview deeply moving and was appalled at her story.

SeenAndNot · 16/01/2023 21:42

Ihatedonuts · 16/01/2023 21:40

What's t?

Testosterone

Bawdrip · 16/01/2023 21:41

Whatever they are experiencing it is absolutely *not vaginal dryness or vaginal discharge. Truly, it sounds repulsive. Do they have sex? With wounds? I presume they have lost the ability to orgasm. I'm astonished that nearly half don't have these issues tbh

Ihatedonuts · 16/01/2023 21:40

What's t?

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Breakfastinbedonhols · 16/01/2023 21:40

Why are companies like Lush promoting the first steps to this? Weren’t they selling breast binders at one point?

Ihatedonuts · 16/01/2023 21:40

Do they make money In the uK?

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littlelid · 16/01/2023 21:38

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 16/01/2023 21:34

Forever?! Omg

So if they are having regular sex, they can drop to dilation around once a month. After a few months of everyday dilation, it starts dropping to a few times a week. But they'll always have to do it.

Yes just read that bit. Still. Painful thing to put yourself through. I understand now why more people don't.

clutchingatpearls · 16/01/2023 21:38

Women on T can lose the ability to orgasm. Vaginal atrophy. Pain during sex. Nipple sensation lost due to mastectomy. What happens when you take away someone's ability to connect sexually with other humans? These butchers are cauterising their humanity.

littlelid · 16/01/2023 21:37

Ah aparantly for 3 months they have to do it and then it can go down to once a week

Msstakes · 16/01/2023 21:36

Blendy · 16/01/2023 20:39

Oh well

Vile response. What is actually wrong with you to think like this?
The pushing of poor surgery under dubious theory is horrendous.

Unsure33 · 16/01/2023 21:34

9outof10cats · 16/01/2023 21:29

This is an elective surgical procedure, not a life-saving one. Surely people have a degree of responsibility to research the risks and complications that can arise, for themselves?

These young people mostly need mental health support and their parents are told the surgery and drugs will solve their problems and parents go along with it as they are told their children may commit suicide if they don’t agree. I am sure most of you know the story of the lady from Mermaids ?

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 16/01/2023 21:34

Forever?! Omg

So if they are having regular sex, they can drop to dilation around once a month. After a few months of everyday dilation, it starts dropping to a few times a week. But they'll always have to do it.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 16/01/2023 21:34

SomethingLessIdentifiable · 16/01/2023 20:34

These surgeries are a mass medical lawsuit waiting to happen.

I agree

Absolutely horrific that these extremely risky and damaging surgeries are performed rather than alternative options of supporting trans people in accepting who they are.

I think trans people are being led to believe that they really will get a proper vagina and it will just be like a woman’s vagina. Rather than having a hole that grows hairs inside and is prone to infection

MaireadMcSweeney · 16/01/2023 21:34

Ihatedonuts · 16/01/2023 21:29

Sorry kid woke up just seen dilating. Surely they don't have to do that forever???? I just hate the thought these kids / teenagers being told it will cure stuff. What about if they want to have kids later??? How does that work?

They sell it that you can reduce how often you do it after some years and that if you have penetrative sex with a partner that will do instead but yeah - they have to dilate forever or lose the depth.

howmanybicycles · 16/01/2023 21:33

Personally I don't support any extreme forms of body modification, whether it's attempting to mock up a superficial mock-up of a vagina or done for non-trans reasons. Just because we can do something does not mean we should.

we would be much better off investing the money in helping people to be able to detach their identity from their body and thereby live a life where they are true to themselves (albeit always the sex they're born because that can't change). Reinforcing the idea that the presence of absence of an appendage in your pants defines your personality is helping no-one.

BethDuttonsTwin · 16/01/2023 21:32

wound.

BethDuttonsTwin · 16/01/2023 21:32

They also have to do it almost immediately after the surgery while the would is still not healed. Imagine the agony.

purpledalmation · 16/01/2023 21:32

No surprise, as a penis was not designed to be a vagina

VestaTilley · 16/01/2023 21:32

YANBU. This is common knowledge among those of us who’ve been following this odious issue for some time. The surgeries should be banned.

In thirty years time there’ll be the mother of all scandals and the NHS will have to pay out millions. Nobody in political power seems to want to know.

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