UK Government confirms it will block Scottish GRR

TFFT. Common sense prevails

Hallelujah!

I can't believe what the Scottish Parliament has come to.

This was always going to happen. SNP (in this case Sturgeon) need to fight with Westminster to stay in power. It would never have got to this point over a sensible issue, it has to be something extreme. And the lack of a second chamber really doesn’t help matters.

I’m very pro serious reform of HoL (and hate FPTP), but the Scottish Parliament has given an excellent example of the dangers of proportional representation, coalitions and a lack of second chamber. An extreme minority opinion would be able to pass into law with little scrutiny and oversight despite being in no manifesto, and with a serious risk to the safety, dignity and privacy of a large proportion of citizens.

My experience of teens at the moment is that most are sensible and good, with occasional bout of “you old so you just don’t understand”. But they soon learn to listen. Fads come and go as often as most of us get a new hair style. Being trans is falling out of fashion. Very quickly, those who actually are will still be so, but those who are falling victim to the hype will decrease in number.

But tonight I’m mostly celebrating for the women and girls in Scotland. A huge sigh of relief, in the short term at least. And for the rest of us - more sunlight can only be a good thing.

She'll go on and on about how Westminster is overstepping its authority and hope nobody actually looks at what the thing is.
For the avoidance of doubt, the thing lets rapists into women's prisons.
Not exactly the civil rights issue but f the decade.

Brilliant, thanks!

It doesn't matter what the UK Government's motives were: the most important endpoint is that this issue - dismissed by so many up to now as a trivial matter affecting diddly squat- will be thrust into the mainstream. The effect of that will be to open the eyes and ears of those who have not been following the argument. They will be woken up to what this really means for women and children.

Hopefully also, the wider issue of the entryism into our organisations, businesses and, most of all, our universities and schools will also get thrust into the spotlight, so even those in the population who appear to have been living in caves will no longer be able to claim they don't know about it.

It's obvious Sturgeon wanted a face-off with Westminster to boost independence support by claiming Westminster is bullying Scotland. I think she has chosen the wrong issue here.

The Equality Act talks about protected characteristics. It includes sex as one and having a gender recognition certificate as another. It says that if there is a good reason to (can't remember the exact phrase) a legal woman- that is a natal man with a GRC - can be excluded from single sex spaces even though they are legally a woman. But it has to be a good reason. Organisations are already fearful of protecting single sex services and spaces for fear of litigation.
The Equality Act was drafted taking into account the GRC process being the way it was - medical diagnosis, 2 years " living in new gender" (whatever TF that means). If you change the GRC process the checks and balances envisioned in tbe Equality Act fall away. And some knob who got one in Scotland becomes a legal woman who is unlikely to be shut out of any single sex space.

I’ve linked the Policy Exchange review up thread - if you look at the Executive Summary pages it gives a good overview.

Can someone explain how the bill impacts GB wide equality law?

Good

So Merrilydancing is merrily dancing around the dining room then I presume!😁

Ah ok. Yeah I’m glad that there will be more sunlight now, so hopefully more people will realise just how detrimental to women gender ideology is. The fact that the majority of Transwomen retain their tackle, being one of the issues.

Very happy tonight, let’s hope that the grown ups are finally back in the room.

That's from a couple of years ago, and didn't make it known at the polling stage that the majority of tw keep their sausage and sprouts. Once that fact was clarified, it swung way in the other direction. Funny how facts change things, innit?

She make care about pronouns, but she certainly doesn’t care about possessive pronouns — “it’s”, tsk, tsk.

What year is this from? It’s certainly not from this year. Look at the date range. Also it doesn’t reference the GRR bill.

Probably more like Blackpool.

An excellent analysis by MBM -

murrayblackburnmackenzie.org/2023/01/09/gender-recognition-reform-scotland-bill-use-of-scotland-act-powers/

WHIT, LIKE SALTCOATS?

Honestly sweet pea...I'd run and run as fast and as far as you can. You want to be on a beach somewhere when your actual files of stuff you thought were shredded by the yts kid reappear.

Kisses.

I agree with you on this

Jack cites a 'chilling effect on single sex spaces', equal pay protections, and 'allowing more bad faith or fraudulent applications'

AHV GOAT TO BE HONEST BEETLE AHV HUD A SHIT DAY. AHM WONDERIN

The impingement is much greater than the age issue. It removes the need for gender dysphoria and when read in conjunction with the Haldane judgement it impacts the definitions of the relevant protected characteristics. Those PC also form the basis of the Public Sector Equality Duty in the Equality Act 2010.

@RealFeminist oh Nicola you OK hun? You poor wee soul. Its been a shit day for you love hasn't it.

Chin up! Don't let the Westminster bastards get you down!