Telegraph: Rishi Sunak set to block Nicola Sturgeon's trans law tonight

Won't the order have to be laid? Will happen tomorrow presumably.

Although I don't have access to any data, I could give credence to suggestions that Sunak's actions aren't necessarily a vote winner - after all, most people are far more concerned about cost of living, climate change, immigration, Brexit, etc. However, by that same token I could imagine that Sunak's actions aren't a vote loser either.

I hope you’re right and it backfires on Sturgeon and she goes

How much is due to promises made to other parties? Greens in particular. I might have misheard that part but just wondering

I agree Sturgeon knows what she is doing WRT this bill and the Tory response.

Absolutely! You didn’t think Sturgeon actually cared about the deluded demands of a teeny tiny percentage of her electorate?

She has one thought in her head, only one, and that is “What is the path to a Scottish exit from the Union?”

She saw a chance to force through a Scottish bill she knew would undermine English and Welsh laws, and she used it to put the Tories on the spot: either block her and let her present it as an English attack on Scottish democracy, or let it go through and let Sturgeon boast that she can change the law in England and override Westminster.

I do think she’s proved she’s an idiot though, this doesn’t look to anyone like an English attack on Scottish democracy, it looks like England rescuing Scottish women from the dictatorial whims of a fanatic and incompetent leader.

Sturgeon is the last “divide to rule” leader if the Trump-Johnson-Sturgeon era. Scotland needs to give her the boot, replace her with someone who actually wants good things for Scotland, and then we can all move on from the last shitty decade.

Even if your source was right about the Polls suggesting that this isn't a vote-winner @watchfulwishes - I don't think they take into account how difficult it is to state opposition.

The shouting-down of your point of view and calling 'bigot'/'transphobe' doesn't change minds (or votes) but it really does change what you say to pollsters.

BBC news now.

Sex registered...

And then a transwoman moaning that, in a time of pandemic, he is still unable to get his certificate at the age of 23.

Then a commonsense roundup of the issues... Single sex spaces matter and it is daft to claim to be one sex in Scotland and another in England.

Then onto Devolution. Women and transpeople alike being used as political pawns by Little Nicky. Because the basic truth is that her actions are unprecedented and are forcing a reaction. She is the cause, Sunak the reaction.

A full frontal attack on Scotland's ability to rule itself is her being deliberately obtuse - as we have all said for months.

Although...

Now regretting not throwing the rest of you under the bus.

There are some local and lucrative scholarships/career opportunities that would be available to me if I was trans.

If the above ever comes to pass, well, it won't bother me having an 'm' on my passport instead of an 'f'.

Maybe we could ALL enjoy those opportunities if it does ever pass?😁

I agree . Starmer has said their must be reform in this area , but refuses to say what . Surely now he has had long enough time to think about it ? Tell us in black and white what you will do .? Stop with the word salad.

The quote was pretty clear, but as I say I can not find it (I read news all day so get muddled!) so I can't argue the toss.

The DM has their own spin, as does the Guardian - but they both have well-connected political journalists.

Yep not a great source at all, very biased

Or the implications of this bill were not explained properly and they think it’s just about toilets and changing rooms . ITS NOT . There are already very dangerous prisoners in Ireland being moved to womens jails just on self ID . Plus this will open up private hormone treatment and surgery at age 16 . It will happen .

@watchfulwishes the SNP and Greens have a clear majority, the government using this mechanism is provoking a constitutional problem

I voted yes-yes in the 1997 devolution referendum. It doesn’t matter what kind of agreement the SNP and Greens have at Holyrood: this bill is not what devolution is about. Sturgeon knows this full well; she’s cynically using it to create the appearance of a constitutional crisis, when in fact it’s a matter of the Scottish Government (remember pre-2007 when it was the Scottish Executive?) needing to stick to what they were elected to do.

Of course if you’re a Labour supporter it’s important to dismiss as much as possible

But I’m happy to see someone has the backbone to face it politically

Not many do

ya dancer 💃

This is important because it means people concerned about women‘a rights are finally getting a voice.

This side of the debate has been silenced by screams of ‘transphobe’ and ‘bigot’ for too long - simply for expressing concern about women’s legitimate rights. Only incredible powerful women, e.g. JKR, have felt in any way able to speak out.

This is clearly now changing, which I’m personally really grateful for.

I thought I read it in the Guardian

The Guardian is now widely regarded as about as reliable as the Daily Mail.

If they said a snow storm was coming I'd go out and buy some factor 50.

Sunak really is not clever when it comes to politics, he has very poor political instincts. There is concern in the party that this is the wrong approach. He leads a factionalised party.

There is very little polling evidence that this issue is changing the way many people will vote. It is important not to assume other people think the way you do - the polling for the Tories is very weak at present.

Once again I come back to the “bus” approach to politics - no bus (aka political party) will get you to the exact place you need to go, so you get on the bus that takes you the closest to your destination - the Tories are far from perfect, but in this instance they are the right bus to get on.

Good! But do you know what’s behind all this don’t you , they will use it as an excuse to have another independence vote . This is what it’s all about . The uk overruling their decision.

india willoughby today was in an interview and said if a child of 16 was in a boys single sex school and identified as a girl they should move to a girls school and we are basically all transphobic for not agreeing . So with all the pressures that teenagers have we are now going to put this huge life changing decision on them at the same time . Without any sort of help for what might be troubling them.

it’s quite simply unbelievable that it’s been voted for in the first place.
And as much as Starmer is back tracking with word salad it was the SLP that voted for it .

The fighting between Scottish/UK government and all the resultant news coverage that will bring will probably end up benefitting us.

The media isn't going to be able to skirt around this boxing match.

Think of all the debates that are going to have to be had. Actual evidence and legal reality is going to HAVE to be acknowledged.

The public TRA meltdown over the coming months is going to be glorious. The more deranged, the better.

I thought I read it in the Guardian but can't find it now - but basically under the current CoL crisis the quote was at best people think the govt are 'distracted' and at worst 'cruel' on this issue.

Focus group respondents present differently to poll respondents.

It was the Tories' own elections team that were advising the party not to pursue this issue in this way.

There are various Tories arguing against this approach with the Scottosh Parl.

But it looks certain to happen, so we will see how it plays out!

Wow!

Thank goodness. Think Kemi Badenoch still needs to explain Cass Review and conversion therapy nonsense to him though. Or he could ask Boris to explain it as the child safeguarding penny finally dropped for him.