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High Court rejects Good Law Project's challenge on NHS waiting times for trans healthcare

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RoyalCorgi · 16/01/2023 12:26

A not entirely surprising judgement - though GLP are challenging:

goodlawproject.org/update/good-law-project-will-appeal-high-court-decision-on-trans-waiting-times/

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ReunitedThorns · 17/01/2023 09:27

People are wrong about Jolylon, he doesn't care about the actual causes, he's just after the crowd-funding paying his salary and picking particular cases that he knows will generate a lot of money. He's a grifter.

MorvenOfMalvern · 17/01/2023 09:02

The whole thing is so nonsensical.

TRAs spend as much time arguing that being Trans is not to be medicalised or pathologised or gatekept. There is no justification for suggestion that Trans people need counselling, MH support, to see doctors or be 'treated' as there is nothing 'wrobg' with them that ends fixing. I W on national TV said that viewing being Trans as something 'wrong' or an illness '(sickess' was the word I think) was an old-fashioned view.

They also claim they are uniquely discriminated against by lack of access to NHS care, that it is vital they have prompt and free 'treatnent' of any of their many trans related issues, many of which lack any evidence base and ensure a lifelong need for ever increasing care. Basically, "whatever I want, when I want it, just because"

Given how many people I know right now who are being left months on "2 week wait" cancer pathways, and the fact that we have multiple excess deaths every week from lack of timely ambulance and emergency care, how on earth could they win this case?

MiladeeBeserko · 16/01/2023 20:46

I think he has a nice house in London with chickens.

Those free range eggs would be an interesting cost benefit analysis / risk assessment what with the price of baseball bats, kimonos and failure to achieve anything.

NotBadConsidering · 16/01/2023 20:39

ErrolTheDragon · 16/01/2023 15:26

I wonder what proportion of the youngsters will look back on the waiting time with gratitude as they mature?

I don’t know about proportion but I suspect it will be high. On the Gender: Wider Lens podcast interview with the Dutch detransitioner Teiresias he talks about how, with delays of Covid and so on, he decided to stop transitioning just a few weeks before he got his scheduled date for genital surgery.

I have great suspicion of men who want to help children rush through surgery like this.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 16/01/2023 20:17

It's such a shame about the GLP. They could be a genuine force for good - even with largely unwinnable cases, bringing public and media attention to government corruption and failings could be worth doing. But getting bogged down in the ridiculous personal-crusade stuff (and battering foxes) means people are less likely to take the actually important cases seriously.

Metabigot · 16/01/2023 19:03

Trust the TRAs to turn the NHS crisis affecting wait times for all into a trans discrimination issue and glad the judge saw sense.

I'd much rather life saving treatment / disability preventing was prioritised if there is pressure on resources

The entitlement of these activists to bring a discrimination claim is staggering.

littleburn · 16/01/2023 18:22

Really lost? Or just lost at 'a deeply technical level'? 😁

WhiteFire · 16/01/2023 18:11

I hope our resident tell-er-off-er will be off to tell all the donators that they have wasted their money.

mrshoho · 16/01/2023 18:10

Fools with their gold and all that. There are millions of us languishing on lengthening waiting lists for important nhs medical treatment. Why do some people think they should be prioritised over others.

smileladiesplease · 16/01/2023 16:32

I find him very very creepy to be honest

FrancescaContini · 16/01/2023 15:36

Hoardasurass · 16/01/2023 12:34

🤣
What did he expect when arguing that double mastectomies for healthy women and girls are more important than breast cancer treatments

Well, quite.

smileladiesplease · 16/01/2023 15:35

Icake

Thanks for the link it's actually hilarious how these idiots are literally turning on each other in their nonsense snd hate

smileladiesplease · 16/01/2023 15:31

The more cases he looses the better snd the more money these idiots giving it to him to loose the better
Utter plank

ErrolTheDragon · 16/01/2023 15:26

I wonder what proportion of the youngsters will look back on the waiting time with gratitude as they mature?

PronounssheRa · 16/01/2023 15:19

DismantledKing · 16/01/2023 14:43

I don’t know why his supporters don’t just hand their money to the government’s lawyers, and miss out the middle man.

They might as well just go into their garden and burn tenners.

The win/lose record is shocking

DismantledKing · 16/01/2023 14:43

I don’t know why his supporters don’t just hand their money to the government’s lawyers, and miss out the middle man.

pattihews · 16/01/2023 14:40

Gosh, just read the link above. He's raised £8.9 million (yes, million) and has lost almost every case in the last three years. It's a good wheeze, isn't it? Encourage people with more money than sense to pay you large sums of money to prosecute legal cases which don't have a hope in hell. Kerr-ching.

IcakethereforeIam · 16/01/2023 14:38

Coincidentally, I read today this piece bt Jo Bartosche in the Critic about the kimono clad foxclobberer. It's a bit out of date regarding the NHS case. Apparently, he's fallen foul of the tweetsfork mob because he is working with Charlotte Proudman. I think she's twaw but, because she's a proponent of the Nordic model on sexwork, she's for burning and so, for insufficient purity, is Jolyon.

thecritic.co.uk/the-mob-comes-for-maugham/

Transideology is eating itself.

LoobiJee · 16/01/2023 14:37

Have you seen the BBC article, with the quotes from the judge, criticising the fact that a male child hasn’t been given puberty blockers because of the wait time? Describing the children as experiencing “distress and fear” because of the wait.

GailBlancheViola · 16/01/2023 14:36

The losses identify as wins.

pattihews · 16/01/2023 14:34

Has Jolyon ever won a Bad Law Project Good Law Project case?

smileladiesplease · 16/01/2023 14:14

Fox revenge

ghislaine · 16/01/2023 13:54

This blogger has done a very handy analysis of Jolyon’s litigation successes and failures.

labourpainsblog.com/2022/09/30/good-law-project-the-rise-and-fall-of-the-jolyon-empire/

In short, he started off with a bang and has quickly run out of puff.

ADreamIsAllINeedToGetBy · 16/01/2023 13:50

He won a fight against a fox...

ofwarren · 16/01/2023 13:45

Does that man ever win anything? 🤣

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